I am currently looking into buying my first local media player and the Vero V is on the shortlist.
My setup / situation: LG C4 TV, my media files are mostly UHD Blu-Rays (half of them HDR10, half of them DV P7 with FEL), some Blu-Rays, some DVDs.
Following this list to find a DV P7 FEL player I will probably decide between the Vero V, or either the UGOOS AM6+ or the AM9 Pro.
I really like the Out-of-the-box approach and that hardware and software is with the same team, but this list got me thinking for below “short-comings”, since I’m relatively new to media players, maybe you can shed some light onto this?
Dolby VS10 Processing (Vero V: No / Both UGOOS: Yes)
After reading and viewing videos reg. this topic I still don’t have a full clue what this would mean, will I get significantly better results with Dolby VS10 Processing? Or does OSMC / Vero V offer something similar?
Wifi 5 (Vero V) vs Wifi 6 (UGOOS)
For now I need to use Wifi to Stream my media, will this be an issue for high bitrate content?
Hi10p Codec missing?
I never saw this one before in my library, in which case might this affect me in the future?
Delivering to Germany
Are there any additional fees like VAT etc. when importing to Germany / EU?
I have them all. MHO, the Vero V will stand up tall against the AM6B+. Becouse you , me have LG (TV-led) DV isn’t a problem. I do find the Vero V a little slower in loading TV and movie artwork copaird to my AM6B+ and notably slower than AM9 Pro, but I have a large libray (1500+ movies and 340 tv series). this will depend what skin you use and a weak point of the Vero V.
I would consider the Vero V if I were you. The AM9 Pro, is in its infant stage, but updates keep coming. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention the Dune HD Pro One. Love that machine, the swiss knife of all. Just click and play, not fiddleing around kinda like my Vero V.
FWIW I am developing a set of scripts (Windows and macOS) to convert Dv profile 7 UHD rips to profile 8 which I can play back on my Apple TV 4K using Infuse or swiftfin, or jellyfin on my TCL Google TV.
This isn’t FEL but Claude tells me I won’t be able to tell the difference.
My Vero 4k lives on as my only streamer which can play 3D Blu-ray rips.
AFAIK there exists almost no media players that can hardware decode Hi10p. The Vero can do lower complexity files but even boxes like the Shield that have a faster CPU can struggle with some encodes. This format only exists in the anime world (so is of no concern to anyone who does not watch that type of content) and is largely a legacy format that existed for specific reasons that are no longer relevant (ie reducing banding while squeezing files into the smallest file size possible). Now that an actual standardized format exists in 10bit h.265 someone would be better off re-encoding their Hi10p files IMO than muck about trying to find the perfect non-PC player for them.
Thank you very much for You Feedback on 3 & 4, so I think the most impactful topics might be number 1 and maybe number two (for high bitrate files)?
Happy to hear your thoughts on this
P.S.: Reg converting P7 to P8.1, I want to view my media in the best possible quality. This is why I don’t want to loose the enhancement layers and trying to find a media player in first place🙂
The page has a lot of information but that doesn’t output dv files as far as I can tell, but converts dv to high quality PQ12 HDR10 including FEL data.
I’m not clear on what the advantages of this workflow are of what hardware is required to playback the PQ12 files and take full advantage of the HDR
I’ll see if there is anytbing from the dovibaker project which I can include in the conversion to preserve information from the FEL in the profile 8 conversion.
AIUI DoViBaker creates a 12-bit stream which combines the FEL layer (? and adds the trims for a target display). As you say, it’s not clear how that can be saved as a HDR10 or DV P8 file. DoviScripts is a package that can output a P8 file from that process. I’ve not looked into the code to verify what either package actually does.
I think there’s been an attempt to use DoViBaker on the fly to process P7 files but it needs more CPU horsepower than any of these AMLogic boxes can manage.
This is interesting but off-topic for what @TimT is asking.
To Q2: My WiFi system is entirely version 5 (ac) with one 9-metre leg and I don’t get problems playing 4k60 files.
Reg. 2: I fear that some of the heavier high-bitrate files (especially with P7 & FEL) will have problems, have you actually used it in this case as well?
After that, I’m happy if someone can give me some insights to Number 1 (reg. VS10)
I doubt WiFi 5 of itself will be a problem. It all depends on how far Vero is from your router, what walls and floors there are and what other hops there are in the network.
There is a 14-day money back guarantee IIRC so you could try it out.
Me and some users are getting persistent crash issues when playing large uhd files via wifi. To return it we also need to pay the shipping back + the taxes are not refundable. It is very good for ethernet use though, and was happy after reorganizing my living room so it could have ethernet.
Is there anybody who can give me some input on VS10 processing? Is there an alternative processing in place? Or is VS10 processing maybe planned for a future update of OSMC?
VS10 is useful if you want to watch HDR material on an SDR display. If you have an HDR display you are already getting the proper image. Affecting it with VS10 won’t make it “better” in an absolute sense.
As far as I understood from this video, it is also beneficial for SDR / HDR10 → DV Conversion in many cases. Since half of my UHD Blu-Rays are “only” HDR10, I think it would benefit my usecase.
