Samsung QLED or LG OLED?

#9

Funnily enough I was working next door to Harrods earlier and they had 4 window displays featuring flagship Panasonic sets.
Unfortunately they also had what seemed every single picture processing mode turned on with a looping video that was being displayed at the wrong framerate, it was quite a sight seeing the “soap opera” effect whilst still getting motion judder every 10 seconds or so lol.

One might think the worlds most famous department store might have a little more attention to detail but apparently not!

I think I may well end up filling some sample videos on a large memory stick and arrange a viewing at Richer Sounds for all the major flagship sets.

#10

I’ve had my LG OLED65E7 for a couple years now with no sign of burn-in.
I’ve always preferred OLED and Plasma over the LED backlit LCDs.

#11

Make sure you read some manuals before you go in. I tried that and the guy couldn’t figure out how to play media from a stick. Apart from that he was very good :smiley:

Your Richer Sounds may vary.

#12

Prey tell which shop that was so I may avoid it?

#13

Check if there’s this Panasonic GX800 coming in your area. :heart_eyes:

#14

The Panasonic can do both Dolby Vision & HDR10+.

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#15

This one is also very nice considering the price

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#16

Thanks, that’s another set worth considering.
The trouble with watching HDTV Test’s reviews are they are so thorough I’d never end up buying a new TV because there is always something wrong with every manufacturers wares.
I think I definitely need to arrange a viewing and watch all I’m interested in within a real world scenario then make up my mind.

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#17

I have a 55 OLED B6 since two and a half year ago. I l play many many hours on Xbox X and watch a lot of movies and TV series with my vero 4k+. I have watched QLED on friend’s home and it’s not near same quality on dark environment. Next year I will probably go to 65C9 with eARC and vrr/freesync. Going back to lcd is not an option for me.

#18

Buy the OLED i have an 4 year old 1080p OLED and he still destroys any LED in dark room performance.

#19

@zgotenz and @Lostion thanks for your input but can I ask how dark does the room need to be?
As I stated earlier in the thread I/we rarely watch in a totally dark room.
I would say its managed brightness, the darkest conditions we usually watch in I would describe as dusk like lighting.
I am leaning towards the LG OLED, I haven’t arranged a viewing yet but did get time to compare some sets in another dealers showroom today and in a quite bright showroom the LG C9 a Sony AG9 OLED were noticeably darker than the Q90 QLED that’s my other choice.

#20

You do not “need” to be on dark environment, but on dark one is where OLED beats LCD with it’s perfect blacks. You can be on a “dusk” environment and still feel OLED gives your better quality than lcd (QLED is LCD), only way QLED can give you better quality is on a environment with much light (like most stores), where you can’t notice black difference and the more powerful LCD brightness is better. But I don’t not anyone that uses to watch movies or play games with a full light environment hehe.

#21

While QLED does have superior peak brightness, I don’t think that’s really its strongest selling point. What it does best is sustaining what Samsung calls “colour volume”.

OLED is capable of reaching quite respectable brightness levels these days (around 1000 nits) but it achieves that by using an RGBW sub-pixel structure - each pixel consists not just of a red, a green and a blue sub-pixel, but also a white one. As the brightness level gets higher, more and more of the light being produced comes from the white sub-pixel; and what that means is that, as the brightness level rises, OLED steadily loses colour saturation. QLED is able to achieve the same level of colour saturation at peak brightness that it does close to black.

It’s worth checking out the available viewing angles as well. LCD displays (such as QLED) tend to suffer from poorer viewing angles - meaning they look great if you’re looking at them from straight ahead, put performance degrades as you move off-axis.

#22

Well my procrastination has ended.
I finally visited a Richersounds this afternoon and ended up buying a LG C9 :slight_smile:
The picture on the Samsung Q90R did look a little better in their very bright showroom however it wasn’t £500 better which was the price difference now that the C9 has received a £200 price cut this week and I’m unlikely to be viewing in such bright conditions.
I also got a £125 gift voucher, free weekend delivery and a 6 year warranty thrown in as well.
For those in the UK I would highly recommend visiting Richersounds for your AV needs if you’re close to one of their stores, I’ve (touch wood) never had a bad experience with them and to give an example of their ethics the sales assistant I dealt with today actually undersold to me, I was prepared for the hard sell for the expensive QLED when the guy knew the sets I was interested in, but after finding out my needs he recommended cheaper OLED’s and let me have a play around with all the sets on display, then he just let me make my mind up, no hard sell just good advice when I asked questions.

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#23

Yup. I never go anywhere else.

#24

Richer Sounds are great.

#25

The question to me is do I prefer 5 years and John Lewis after sales or 6 years and richer sounds aftercare.
The implication that John Lewis offer better after sales care.

#26

John Lewis is my other go to store for electronics, I actually have a small claim to fame with them,
a few years back I was working next door to their flagship Oxford Street store on the UK launch day of the MS Surface Pro 4,
I had been waiting for that day as I wanted a SP4 so walked in a minute or two after they opened and purchased said tablet, they wanted to take my picture and use it for promotional purposes as I was the first person who’d purchased a Pro 4 in the UK, but when there was no offer of a reduction in price I politely declined lol.
I’ve never had a problem with after sales with either chain but I have had the hard sell in John Lewis.

#27

Richer Sounds’ warranty is sometimes not worth the paper it’s printed on. If a TV goes wrong in a way that can repaired, then they’ll repair it and everything is fine. But if it can’t be repaired, what they then do is to take the fraction of the six years that remains, and give you that fraction of the second-hand value of the TV. So, if it breaks irreparably after 4 years, you will get back only one third of the second-hand sale value of a 4 year-old television, which likely won’t be much.

#28

For anyone who is in the same quandary as I was I can say I’m mighty glad I chose the OLED set.
Even before having the set calibrated and whilst still faffing around with settings the picture quality is superb, my fears about being the picture being too dark in a moderately brightish room were unfounded.
After being used to LED backlit LCD’s for the past few years the contrast took an hour or two to get used to, it is much better than LCD but different enough to be noticeable at first.
A slight minor point is if using a PC on it like I am doing now the anti screen burn technology is quite noticeable as the still screen whilst I’m am writing this is getting gradually darker,
this technology is also noticeable when watching sport as the constant on screen graphic for the score gets darker too, but wow the rest of the picture especially grass looks so much more natural than on my previous set which was a reasonably good LG nano cell LCD.
HDR and Dolby Vision have a very clear wow factor too.
Even eARC seems to work well so far, although when I had my Vero 4K+ directly connected to the TV full Dolby Atmos (not Netflix or Amazons versions of it) introduced around a 150 ms delay, but its fine for TV (the only Atmos I’ve tried from broadcast TV is BT Sports UHD channel) and the Netflix and Amazon apps.