The second. And an option to choose between top or bottom placement.
And then i don’t know if you use a different skin, it would be different again.
Another option would be on the left/right side of the tv. Might be weird, but it’s doable.
Here we go again with L5. I also think it would be good to have it. Regarding which approach to take for showing the OSD, I think the most straightforward option is to disable L5 while the OSD is visible:
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I’m not sure what kind of effect it could have on the image, maybe greyed bars compared to the true black of the matte, but it’s not a big deal to be honest. It would only be a temporary effect while interacting with the UI, where the user is focused on that rather than watching the video.
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It is more future-proof in terms of skin design.
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Moving the OSD inside would necessarily require different offsets depending on the L5 matte, which is not ideal for the UI or for where the user expects it to appear.
For option 3 it’s the same as for the subtitle, bottom of video.
Unless the video has black bars.
Moving the subtitle should be should be easier than moving the progress bar or squeezing the OSD. So we can do the ‘turn off L5’ for OSD and do something else for subtitles.
TBH, I haven’t paid subtitles much attention because most movies are in a language I can understand 
Kodi already has returned this option. So you don’t have to worry about that.
Only the OSD is problematic. Could also do a Center osd? That’s always outside the borders XD
Isn’t that the problem? If the video has black bars the subs will appear in those. Then when you put the level 5 mattes over those black bars you have lost the subs.
Fair! In that case you could either use fixed position and move the subs when you’re playing the video.
Or use the L5 borders? If that’s possible? I really have no idea.
You can have an option for disable L5 when subs and/or OSD are present and an option to confine subs and OSD to DV active area.
Then the user can decided what fits their needs best.
L5 is mostly pointless IMHO, but it does matter on certain titles.
But… but… but… the director’s intent was to have elevated black bars!
I have some experience with the L5 option on CE builds. Enabling L5 does not necessarily cause OSD issues, it depends on the display. OSD works fine when enabling L5 with my LG C5, but with my old Panny HZ980 it blanks out the OSD. The final release of CE 21.3 had a two-stage L5 option: straight on/off, or on only while not using the OSD. The latest nightly of CE 22 is just on/off for the moment.
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IIRC your Panny has a switch to enable LLDV or ‘standard’ DV. I would expect different behaviour in the two different modes.
The only reason I think it’s worth putting up with L5 is that, apparently, in some films it causes the black level to rise when the letterbox bars are included in the tone mapping. I’ve been able to observe this personally in some films, especially with the projector, there are films that look great with a good black level and have letterbox bars, while other films where the entire image (including the letterbox bars) looks excessively washed out, and it’s not a case of the “director’s vision”, because it happens across different editions of the same film. For example, Killers of the Flower Moon Eagle Pictures (Italy) vs. Criterion Collection (US), the latter shows an excessively washed-out image, which is simply not normal.
I already shared this video in the past, but just to illustrate what it seems to happen on those cases… https://youtu.be/HyrA3KmcJBU?t=469 (reasons 4 and 5)
it does, though to be precise, one mode advertises compatibility with TV-led or player-led, whereas the other forces the TV to be player-led only. With TV-led the OSD is unusable with L5 enabled via the Panny whereas it’s fine on the C5. If I use player-led DV on a CE build the enable L5 option disappears as it’s handled entirely player-side so it becomes a moot point.
Hi All, I have noticed since this release on the Vero V playing Maverick, my Philips OLED 950 registers Dolby Vision but the colours are muted, leaving the stream and then replaying Dolby Vision engages again and the colours are as expected. Any suggested tweaks? I’m playing from a Plex library through PM4K if that makes any difference?
I had that problem a few times too, on the same title and a couple of others, with an LG OLED. I never really got to the bottom of it, but it’s seems to be very intermittent. I also found that skipping forward or back seemed to fix the problem. Does that work for you?
I had this same problem on LG C5 sometimes. The skipping fixed it for me as well.
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To add about the Level 5 options.
In CE there are multiple settings regarding subs as well. These are very good settings that should be transferred to OSMC imo.
It will put the subs in the active area.
You could utilize this for the OSD as well if needed.
Hi All. Has anyone seen an issue whereby their TV is no longer displaying the ‘Dolby Vision’ flag when starting playing DV content? I installed the May update, and continued to see the DV flag as before. I’ve just been on holiday for a week and booted everything back up, and when I’ve gone to play either (WEB-DL or REMUX) DV format, there’s no popup on my screen at all.
Not much to go on there. How about some logs?
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