Rollback is one of the main features they talk about snap (snap format @ ubuntu).
However, if you will go that way, you’ ll have to repackage everything … 
Snap works for programs that can be containerised. The idea is to basically build everything needed and run anywhere, and get a little isolation too.
But it wouldn’t work for a whole OS, and it’s not intended to replace Debs but rather run alongside them. I suspect its main use will be to offer more up to date versions of applications, like a PPA on steroids.
Yep. Or simply give the users the choice to run kodi 16.1 or 17.x :}
Hello,
I won’t release an update today for any platform today, because all platforms should be ready at once. I’ve made some changes available for Vero here and I’d like your feedback.
To test, please run the following commands:
wget "https://www.dropbox.com/s/m23hhkj0zg9662j/vero-mediacenter-osmc.deb?dl=1" -O vero-mediacenter-osmc.deb
sudo dpkg -i vero-mediacenter-osmc.deb
sudo reboot
When you say they’re good, everyone will get an update.
Best
Sam
I installed your changes on my Vero 1, but unfortunately playback is unchanged (still choppy as f*ck). You can easily see this in the test-video that I sent you earlier.
I must say that this update fixed it for me, at least with the 1080p videos i have in my library, they where choppy before this update but plays smooth now.
Entered WIFI settings. Slowww. Found out that the Wifi in the Vero1 is abominable and that this is known. So much for using it wirelessly upstairs. 
Resolving dl.dropboxusercontent.com (dl.dropboxusercontent.com)… 162.125.65.6
Connecting to dl.dropboxusercontent.com (dl.dropboxusercontent.com)|162.125.65.6|:443… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 41322190 (39M) [application/x-debian-package]
Saving to: ‘vero-mediacenter-osmc.deb?dl=1’
vero-mediacenter-osmc.deb?dl=1 15%[========> ] 6.18M 7.06KB/s eta 17m 25s
Ripped the ethernet cable out of my PS4 and downloaded the deb. Installed. Rebooted. Now testing results.
Sluggishness seems to be resolved in Kodi itself and on the command-line. Also playback is back to normal for a Vero1.
We fixed the Wireless on Vero 1 a while back. While the original antenna design wasn’t great, we had a lot of performance loss from a driver issue. That’s been resolved for a while.
The menu might be a bit slow but this is a My OSMC bug resolved in the next update.
So the sluggishness being solved is now probably related to the fact you have updated.
Sam
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I will test the Wifi further. It really is vert slow. What speed is acceptable? Is there anyone who can show me a few throughputs?
The latest kernel should have these improvements, unless there was some regression.
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 43.8 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.1.15 port 43736 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.1 sec 18.6 MBytes 15.5 Mbits/sec
This is on the floor in the corner of my room as I don’t use the Vero 1 as often as I used to.
Vero 1:
osmc@osmc:~$ wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
converted ‘http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip’ (ANSI_X3.4-1968) → ‘http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip’ (UTF-8)
–2017-03-12 23:48:27-- http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
Resolving speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com (speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com)… 208.43.102.250, 2607:f0d0:3001:78::2
Connecting to speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com (speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com)|208.43.102.250|:80… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’
/dev/null 100%[==========================================================================================>] 100.02M 454KB/s in 6m 40s s
2017-03-12 23:55:07 (256 KB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [104874307/104874307]
osmc@osmc:~$
Vero 4k
osmc@osmc4k:~$ wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
converted ‘http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip’ (ANSI_X3.4-1968) → ‘http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip’ (UTF-8)
–2017-03-13 00:06:20-- http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
Resolving speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com (speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com)… 208.43.102.250, 2607:f0d0:3001:78::2
Connecting to speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com (speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com)|208.43.102.250|:80… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’
/dev/null 3%[==> ] 3.92M 41.7KB/s eta 38m 35s
MacBook:
DHWJs-MacBook-Pro:~ d.sluijter$ curl http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip >/dev/null
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 100M 100 100M 0 0 6568k 0 0:00:15 0:00:15 --:–:-- 6349k
So weird. Any tips?
Cheers,
Duncan.
Your test is overly complicated, and involves using the Internet. Not very reliable either.
If you can install iperf on your Mac, use that for testing. On the Vero’s
sudo apt-get install iperf
To test, on one vero:
iperf -s
And the other:
iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c name_of_other_vero
It would be better if you can run iperf on the Mac however.
You should use iperf rather than a speedtest which can vary based on other factors. I’d do as @bmillham suggests, but avoid doing iperf tests from WiFi to WiFi. It’s best to have one testing device wired.
Thanks guys for the help. Installed iperf on a Rpi.
Vero 4k
No streaming issues over Wifi with 1080p content.
osmc@osmc4k:~$ iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c 192.168.2.8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.2.8, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.2.23 port 34012 connected with 192.168.2.8 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0- 1.0 sec 2.38 MBytes 19.9 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 1.0- 2.0 sec 2.88 MBytes 24.1 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 2.0- 3.0 sec 2.62 MBytes 22.0 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 3.0- 4.0 sec 1.88 MBytes 15.7 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 4.0- 5.0 sec 2.50 MBytes 21.0 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 5.0- 6.0 sec 2.50 MBytes 21.0 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 6.0- 7.0 sec 2.62 MBytes 22.0 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 7.0- 8.0 sec 2.88 MBytes 24.1 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 8.0- 9.0 sec 2.75 MBytes 23.1 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 9.0-10.0 sec 2.75 MBytes 23.1 Mbits/sec
Vero 1
Streaming issues over Wifi with 1080p content. The content runs @ aq 375 aand 2.65 Mb/s so in my opinion it should run fine seeing the iperf results down here.
osmc@osmc:~$ iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c 192.168.2.8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.2.8, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 43.8 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.2.22 port 44274 connected with 192.168.2.8 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0- 1.0 sec 640 KBytes 5.24 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 1.0- 2.0 sec 512 KBytes 4.19 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 2.0- 3.0 sec 640 KBytes 5.24 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 3.0- 4.0 sec 640 KBytes 5.24 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 4.0- 5.0 sec 384 KBytes 3.15 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 5.0- 6.0 sec 640 KBytes 5.24 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 6.0- 7.0 sec 640 KBytes 5.24 Mbits/sec
MacBook pro
DHWJs-MacBook-Pro:~ d.sluijter$ iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c 192.168.2.8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.2.8, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 129 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 4] local 192.168.2.6 port 62665 connected with 192.168.2.8 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.0- 1.0 sec 5.62 MBytes 47.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.0- 2.0 sec 5.25 MBytes 44.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.0- 3.0 sec 4.75 MBytes 39.8 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 3.0- 4.0 sec 4.38 MBytes 36.7 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.0- 5.0 sec 4.00 MBytes 33.6 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 5.0- 6.0 sec 4.62 MBytes 38.8 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 6.0- 7.0 sec 5.12 MBytes 43.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 7.0- 8.0 sec 4.62 MBytes 38.8 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 8.0- 9.0 sec 4.50 MBytes 37.7 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 9.0-10.0 sec 5.00 MBytes 41.9 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 10.0-11.0 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/secYour speeds seem a bit low, particularly on the Vero 4K and Macbook Pro. On a 5Ghz network on the Vero 4K, I can get:
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47374 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 238 MBytes 199 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47376 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 205 MBytes 172 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47377 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.4 sec 159 MBytes 129 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47378 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 213 MBytes 179 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47380 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 227 MBytes 190 Mbits/sec
If you look at @sam_nazarko results, your connection from the Vero is very slow. Try repositioning it, or if possible move it closer to the router.
I found the my Vero 4K works a little better if I stand it on it’s side (like if you had it mounted on the back of a TV). Laying flat on a table did not work as well.
Is your router AC, or just N?
Just an N. And I think not a very good one. An Experia Box v9, ZTE H368N router. Thinking about upgrading to a Netgear R7000.
Thanks for that @sam_nazarko but I think you are on a AC router or not? I checked my router settings and set it to N only, and from 20Mhz to 40.
The Vero1 now better 
:
osmc@osmc:~$ iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c 192.168.2.8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.2.8, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 43.8 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.2.22 port 46630 connected with 192.168.2.8 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0- 1.0 sec 1.25 MBytes 10.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 1.0- 2.0 sec 1.38 MBytes 11.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 2.0- 3.0 sec 1.38 MBytes 11.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 3.0- 4.0 sec 1.38 MBytes 11.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 4.0- 5.0 sec 1.25 MBytes 10.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 5.0- 6.0 sec 1.38 MBytes 11.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 6.0- 7.0 sec 1.00 MBytes 8.39 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 7.0- 8.0 sec 1.38 MBytes 11.5 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 8.0- 9.0 sec 896 KBytes 7.34 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 9.0-10.0 sec 1.12 MBytes 9.44 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 10.0-11.0 sec 1.25 MBytes 10.5 Mbits/sec
The Vero 4k now meh, same, better, worse… but overall better, haha 
:
osmc@osmc4k:~$ iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c 192.168.2.8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.2.8, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 192.168.2.15 port 44170 connected with 192.168.2.8 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0- 1.0 sec 3.50 MBytes 29.4 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 1.0- 2.0 sec 2.50 MBytes 21.0 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 2.0- 3.0 sec 3.12 MBytes 26.2 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 3.0- 4.0 sec 2.88 MBytes 24.1 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 4.0- 5.0 sec 2.75 MBytes 23.1 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 5.0- 6.0 sec 2.75 MBytes 23.1 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 6.0- 7.0 sec 2.25 MBytes 18.9 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 7.0- 8.0 sec 2.25 MBytes 18.9 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 8.0- 9.0 sec 2.38 MBytes 19.9 Mbits/sec
MacBook now about the same…
DHWJs-MacBook-Pro:~ d.sluijter$ iperf -i 1 -t 60 -c 192.168.2.8
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.2.8, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 129 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 4] local 192.168.2.6 port 65457 connected with 192.168.2.8 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.0- 1.0 sec 5.12 MBytes 43.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.0- 2.0 sec 2.75 MBytes 23.1 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.0- 3.0 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 3.0- 4.0 sec 4.00 MBytes 33.6 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.0- 5.0 sec 5.12 MBytes 43.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 5.0- 6.0 sec 5.62 MBytes 47.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 6.0- 7.0 sec 5.00 MBytes 41.9 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 7.0- 8.0 sec 5.00 MBytes 41.9 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 8.0- 9.0 sec 5.25 MBytes 44.0 Mbits/secHave you set the channels in your router to transmit where there is least interference for your environment? There are iOS and Android apps available to test this.
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Those numbers look much better! Do videos play now?
Sam and I both have R7000s 
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