My Vero 4K gets quite warm when idle

Hey guys,
I’m a novice (at best) when it comes to linux/kodi. It runs fine, but it does get quite warm/hot, even when idling, to the point where i don’t feel comfortable having it plugged in at night.

Is this normal?

Thanks in advance

Robin

Well that really depends on what you consider warm/hot? Is it warm like touchable or hot like burning?
Also what is the environment temperature where you have the Vero4K running?
Are you on the latest version? Have you installed any special packages?
If you search on the forum for “Vero Hot” you will find some threads discussing it but all got solved one way or the other.

Check what is running on the device.
I had some scripts causing 200% CPU Load - and then this devices gets warm.

Log in through ssh, and run “top” for a while, and report the default load back here.
This is what I have…

osmc@osmc4k:~$ top -d 1 -n 5
top - 16:22:39 up 7 days,  7:01,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.14
Tasks: 113 total,   1 running, 111 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
%Cpu(s):  3.9 us,  0.2 sy,  0.0 ni, 95.8 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem:   1854320 total,   972396 used,   881924 free,    48860 buffers
KiB Swap:        0 total,        0 used,        0 free.   589704 cached Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                                        
 4299 osmc      20   0  653236 231912  30176 S  15.8 12.5   2208:23 kodi.bin                                                                                                       
 9947 osmc      20   0    4552   1204    832 R   2.0  0.1   0:00.16 top                                                                                                            
 9919 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   1.0  0.0   0:01.22 kworker/1:0                                                                                                    
    1 root      20   0   22852   2500   1460 S   0.0  0.1   0:14.06 systemd                                                                                                        
    2 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.54 kthreadd                                                                                                       
    3 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:14.11 ksoftirqd/0                                                                                                    
    7 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   2:12.26 rcu_sched                                                                                                      
    8 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.00 rcu_bh                                                                                                         
    9 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.55 migration/0                                                                                                    
   10 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.67 migration/1                                                                                                    
   11 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:04.31 ksoftirqd/1   

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Thank you for the quick reply!
This is what i got!

top - 19:35:22 up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 1.51, 1.05, 0.47
Tasks: 116 total, 1 running, 115 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 2.2 us, 2.2 sy, 0.1 ni, 95.5 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem: 1854320 total, 341904 used, 1512416 free, 13804 buffers
KiB Swap: 0 total, 0 used, 0 free. 146532 cached Mem

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
740 osmc 20 0 721372 88492 26720 S 22.2 4.8 1:18.23 kodi.bin
31 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.3 0.0 0:00.78 kworker/u8+
37 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.84 kworker/0:1
446 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.65 dhd_dpc
1302 osmc 20 0 2980 1100 756 R 0.3 0.1 0:02.77 top
1 root 20 0 22908 2444 1468 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.21 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
4 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0:0
5 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.11 kworker/0:+
6 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 kworker/u8+

It is very much touchable, I think its around 40C - 105f ish. Just room temp, 20C - 70f.
It runs fine, no issues other than the warmth.

Thing is - my Very has a load average of 0.12 -> 0.14
while your’s around

however, looking at your output, I don’t see the process that is actually causing the load, which leads me to rather think you have a trojan running on your box.

do you by chance have your Vero accessible from the Internet, and did you not change the password?
In that case - I rather think you got yourself the mining malware.
Check it out, it is quite recent:
https://www.google.fr/search?q=raspberry+PI+mining+malware&oq=raspberry+PI+mining+malware&aqs=chrome..69i57.13495j0j8&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

In that case, my advice is to reimage your Device and change the password straight after the reimaging process is finished - then reconfigure it.
Also - make sure it cannot be accessed from the outside.

If that is not the case, You need to provide a full log for us to check what is going on.

Cheers

Fairly sure it’s not accessable from the internet, but reimaging can’t hurt right? I’ll do that asap!

Thank you for your responses!
You’ve been a big help! let’s hope it pans out, i’ll report back!

In that case, I rather think you got a script that runs amok on your device…
But the logs would help identify it.
Re-Imaging will also make it clean again :wink:

So i’ve reimaged it, updated and attached my storage (which is on the network, is that the problem?). And it’s showing the same range of values.

Is it the network storage, and is there anything i can do about it?

top - 23:26:52 up 11 min, 1 user, load average: 1.36, 1.25, 0.75
Tasks: 112 total, 2 running, 110 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 1.7 us, 1.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 97.4 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem: 1854320 total, 305392 used, 1548928 free, 11852 buffers
KiB Swap: 0 total, 0 used, 0 free. 124216 cached Mem

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1042 osmc 20 0 576524 77524 25248 R 9.6 4.2 1:30.08 kodi.bin
1279 osmc 20 0 2984 1100 756 R 1.0 0.1 0:02.67 top
358 avahi 20 0 3292 1236 1000 S 0.7 0.1 0:00.34 avahi-daem+
19 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/3
106 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:02.43 kworker/0:2
426 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.55 dhd_dpc
1271 osmc 20 0 10736 1504 820 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.14 sshd
1318 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.20 kworker/u8+
1 root 20 0 22972 2484 1464 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.14 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 ksoftirqd/0
5 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 kworker/0:+
6 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.36 kworker/u8+
7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.15 rcu_sched

Thanks again for the help!

EDIT: it is a lot cooler now so I’m happy, but if those numbers are worrying, then i shall worry!

I wouldn’t worry about the average load figures. Your previous 15-minute figure was 0.47 and the latest one is 0.75, so the machine doesn’t look overloaded. Bitcoin mining would very likely show high CPU% numbers.

CPU% and load average are different measurements, with only a very loose correlation. See this thread, for example, where low CPU and high load average are discussed.

Warm isn’t anything to really worry about, particularly as it’s getting warmer here. The Vero 4K has good thermal governing so all should be fine, particularly if you haven’t noticed any performance problems or freezes / crashes.

Sam