One File has stutter on certain scenes

Hi,

So i got a new TV (Sony Bravia 9) and everything worked ok but now i have a File where on 2 Scenes the Pictures stutter/hangs, whats confusing to me that it only happens in HDR10 if i play the same Movie with DV Profile 5 it doesnt stutter/hang. So i thought its the HDR10 File itself but it isnt it played without a Problem on my LG G5 with Ugoos AMB6+.

I tested some things and it looks like the Vero V is sending a resync signal. If i turn off framerate Matching it doesnt stutter/hang.

The internal media player of the TV also plays it fine.

Log + Mediainfo:

https://paste.osmc.tv/hiziyukebe.xml

I can also upload the whole file if somebody wants to test it.

If by ‘framerate matching’ you mean Sync playback to display then it should be off unless you are using a PC monitor.

No i meant 24p switching it’s on start/stop. Sync to display is off.

Does it happen in the exact same place in the file every time? If you can upload just that segment somewhere, that would probably help the OSMC folks look at it and for others to see if they can duplicate the issue on their setup.

Yes but what’s funny if you jump into the scene, then it doesn’t happen, but when you jump 20 seconds before the scene, the stutter happens. So yeah can be reproduced. I will upload a sample in a few minutes.

Edit:

First stutter/freeze 04:23 (when she wants to knock on the alarm clock) it stutter/freezes for one second.
Second stutter/freeze 05:05 (he walks in the kitchen) it stutter/freezes for one second.

Rest of the movie was stutter/freeze free atleast i didnt notice any others.

Sample link: Gofile - Cloud Storage Made Simple

Just tested your file as it sounded similar to an issue I was having playing a UHD rip of The Green Mile (HDR10) on my Sony A95L.

Your file plays fine if I have ‘Use Limited Colour Range’ disabled (settings>system>display). If I enable this option, I see stutters in exactly the same places as you.

Worth a try to see if it fixes things for you. I see no disadvantage to disabling this setting on this tv - still getting proper blacks.

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Also tested the file in my environment

  • using a TV Philips OLED910 (with and without image motion enhancement)
  • direct connected to the TV but also via AVR SONY STR-DN1080
  • adjust display refresh rate set to ‘on start/stop’ and ‘always’
  • use limited colour range on/off
  • using actual development staging of OSMC and current stable release

Result: None of the combinations here result in the effect or behavior you described.

The log file excerpt isn’t helpful, but I’m afraid we won’t find anything usable in the standard logs either… though it’s worth a try:

To get a better understanding of the problem you are experiencing we need more information from you. The best way to get this information is for you to upload logs that demonstrate your problem. You can learn more about how to submit a useful support request here.

Depending on the used skin you have to set the settings-level to standard or higher, in summary:

  • enable debug logging at settings->system->logging

  • reboot the OSMC device twice(!)

  • reproduce the issue

  • upload the log set (all configs and logs!) either using the Log Uploader method within the My OSMC menu in the GUI or the ssh method invoking command grab-logs -A

  • publish the provided URL from the log set upload, here

Thanks for your understanding. We hope that we can help you get up and running again shortly.

OSMC skin screenshot:

Interesting. I can’t think of any reason for this behaviour. I will test on Panasonic and Philips. Not every TV accepts full-range video on HDMI with YUV. If you are not getting crushed blacks and blown whites then I guess the Sony does.

No problems on my TVs.

Well i did enable everything before that is the log incomplete?

Your log is only the Kodi log.

https://paste.osmc.tv/izijisoras i hope that one works :slight_smile:

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Interesting let me test that later when i am at home! :slight_smile:

Edit: that fixxed the stutter! Also picture looks the same! Thank you!

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Looks like an issue with Sony only. IIRC there was a recent fw update that borked something else. Any chatter on wherever Sony TVs are discussed?

I have the standard firmware on it didn’t update yet because the newest update seems broken (with Dolby vision not working at all over HDMI). So I’ll wait with the updates until Sony fixed the current firmware. But it’s interesting that the issue only is in HDR10 I didn’t have it with Dolby Vision but also it makes no difference turning on and off the limited range setting (in terms of color/black levels) but fixes the issue.

Strange indeed.

Yeah, this limited colour range frame skipping behaviour has been there since owning the set, well before the recent broken firmware update.

It does feel odd that in my case the issue wasn’t present in a more consistent way with limited colour range enabled, as I didn’t see the same behaviour in any of my other HDR10 media. Just two frame skips in one film, which played perfectly otherwise. I do remember testing this on an Ugoos AM6B+ at the time running CoreELEC, with same results.

Certainly seems like a Sony-specific issue.

To be sure, you could connect the Vero to the LG5 and try to reproduce the problem there. If that doesn’t work (the reproduction of the problem), the issue is isolated to the Sony TV.