@sam_nazarko , the state of the art is actually when the device is in standby = LED is red on and the device is in operation = LED is blue on.
Or, as the Vero does, the LED is on in standby mode and the LED is off when in operation.
Do you have other HIFI devices in your home directly beside the Vero V?
If so, which LED ( no matter if red or blue) is brighter?
I am not criticizing the function.
I am criticizing the brightness of the LED when the LED is on.
The brightness of the LED is definitely too bright.
This is probably why you donāt understand what users mean by the brightness of the LED.
No, I donāt want to switch off the LED.
Until a better solution is found, I have darkened the LED with a foil.
However, this is not in the spirit of the inventor and should please be solved better by OSMC.
I think brightness is subjective. We usually get people that want it on, or people that donāt. I donāt think weāve had requests in the past to dim the LED; just to change the behaviour.
Yes, everything is subjective, brightness of an LED, LED yes or no, LED red or blue.
Itās probably too late for the Vero V, but perhaps it in a few yearsā time, when the next hardware is developed, a query about the LED will be launched.
LED: yes or no?
LED red for standby and blue for operation: yes or no?
LED brightness strong (as now) or weak (so that it does not disturb in a dark room): yes or no?
That would be very nice.
The only thing that really bothers me is the brightness of the LED.
I donāt care about the colour or whether there are two states.
That is something i will never understand. why put it in standby?
The device is using ~3 watt (26kwh per year). That only a few dollars/pounds/euros a year.
Maybe iām just used to big utilities bills because of winter in canada.
The reason is that putting it in stand-by is (as far as Iām aware).the only way to turn off the HDMI output signal; and whatever device it is connected to (e.g. the TV or an AVR) may refuse to go into stand-by mode so long as itās receiving an active HDMI input.
Yes, the LED is too bright, especially when compared to all other stand by LEDs in my setupā¦
Most common arrangement for other equipment is Red for St-by and (dim) Blue for ON
I have no equipment that is off - or St-by - with Blue and this attracts my wifeās sight as she think the unit is ON and, BTW, she HATES all st-by lights
As I understand it:
Itās NOT a dual color LED, so no option to have it Red for St-by / Blue for ON.
Itā not dimmable, neither.
Soā¦ MAYBE, an option to invert the logic AND another option to keep the LED OFF at all times would suit most, with some adaptation.
Do hope a change is implemented, thoughā¦
Thanks!
Joe
I work for a company that makes cable boxes and this was one of the biggest complaints we received with our newer hardware.
Iām talking about millions of customers.
By default our blue status light was on when the device was on and off when it was in standby.
This was a huge complaint because many of these boxes were in our customerās bedrooms and people said that their entire room was lit up by our light at night and people complained about struggling to go to sleep.
Many of our customers covered the area of the unit with electrical tape.
The biggest thing we found from our large customer base was that most people prefer red over blue.
A red light on in a bedroom at night was less distracting than a blue one.
Major problem since there was no red LED on the unit and our company wanted blue to match our company colors, which red is not a part of.
So we were stuck with blue for this hardware iteration for sure.
We were able to put an option under ādevice settingsā that allowed the customer to choose between: Hi, Medium, Low, and Off.
We stayed with our design of LED on (unless customer changed it to Off in the Device Settings) while on and LED off when in standby.
Since itās design is an always on device, just like the Vero, we added a CEC feature and enabled it by default so that when our customers turned their TVs off the units would go into standby and the LED would turn off.
This way customers who were unaware of the device light options we had added and had the box in their bedroom would not be bothered by the light because when they turned the TV off our box would go into standby and the LED light would be turned off as well.
So in the end, the customer is stuck with blue but they can change itās brightness or turn it off completely if they choose and the LED will be on when the device is on and off when itās in standby.
So for whatever itās worth, thatās what our company learned.
Personally, I donāt want any LED lights on at all when Iām watching my TV.
I watch my TV predominately at night time with all the lights out and any other lights on in the vicinity of the TV are just distracting when Iām trying to watch a movie.
So Iām glad the Vero isnāt showing any LEDs while itās operational.
The only device I have that I even use the LED on is my LG OLED.
I enabled the option to show the red standby light when the TV is off because if I donāt I canāt tell if my TV is on or off.
My Vero screensaver is just black and with an OLED TV the panel is literally not emitting any light so it looks like itās off when itās actually on.
So I welcome the very dim small red LED at the bottom letting me know that I did in fact turn my TV off and I can go to bed with that peace of mindā¦
Iāve been doing many reboots with my V and learning all the ins and outs of how it works compared to the 4K+ and I will say that when itās booting up and that blue LED comes on it is very very bright.
I have never seen an AV device with a status light so bright!
Anyone wanting that LED on all the time while the V is on is crazy in my opinion unless it can be dimmed.
If it could be dimmed then I can see why some users may want it on when the V is not in stand by.
Oh, and I am not a fan of the Amlogic splash screen at all during boot.
Reminds me of many modern motherboards these days.
They hide all the information with a logo splash screen.
I always disable that.
Iād rather see the boot information.
But thatās just me.
I agree with the people here saying the LED is too bright. I will probably disable it completely coz I dont wanna change its resistorā¦ Maybe after the 1year warranty.
I played with the CEC settings to put the Vero V to sleep when TV is off and I assume the Vero V does go to sleep and the LED turns on when turning off the TV. Thatās how I noticed it. Itās not a big issue for me but just sayingā¦ first time I saw the LED on I had the same reaction as the rest of the people here.
(I do hardware at work and currently working on a board that we made a rev B for and the one of the differences was just increase the resistor in series with a blue LED coz everybody complained about it being too bright.)
Iāve been searching for how to turn off the bright blue standby light on Vero V and there are so many posts complaining about wanting the LED light on while unit is on, wanting the LED off when the unit is off, wanting a red LED, wanting a blue LED, etc. Everyone wants something different, which must be frustrating for the designers haha. I think this is something that should be considered though. Before Veros I used to use WDTVs and the first thing I would do is toggle the option in the settings to turn off the LED indicator (and that one was much less bright than the Veros). It would be really nice to have that option like the WDTVs had. Let people who are sensitive to bright LEDs in their room while sleeping turn them off. A lot of picky people like me sleep better in complete darkness.
Yes ā thereās no one size fits all
Iāve picked things up on your other post.
In honesty I just never turn my Vero units off. If youāve got two smart plugs in your house idling that will use more power than a Vero during normal usage.
My main concern is wanting the Veros to go to IDLE so that my attached hard drive will spin down, not the power being used by the Vero itself. What you described for proposed options in the menu in your other post would be perfect.
