[TESTING] Vero 4K / 4K + video improvements

My edid through my Onkyo TX-RZ820 connected to my Sony KD-65X8505C:

osmc@vero4k:~$ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/rawedid
00ffffffffffff003dcb801100000000001b0103809051780a0dc9a05747982712484c2108008180                                                                                                                                                             01010101b3000101010101010101023a801871382d40582c45009f295300001e011d007251d01e20                                                                                                                                                             6e2855009f295300001e000000fc0041562052656365697665720a20000000fd00303e0e463c000a                                                                                                                                                             202020202020013202036df05761605d5e5f621f101405130420223c3e120311020165663b097f07                                                                                                                                                             0f7f071707503f06c04d02005706015f7e035f7e01677f01834f000078030c004500b83c2fd08a01                                                                                                                                                             02030401401fc08090d0d6e0f067d85dc401788001e305ff01e200f9e40f030060e3060d01000000                                                                                                                                                             000000000000000000000000000000a2
osmc@vero4k:~$ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/edid
Rx Brand Name: ONK
Rx Product Name: AV
Manufacture Week: 0
Manufacture Year: 2017
Physical size(cm): 144 x 81
EDID Version: 1.3
EDID block number: 0x1
blk0 chksum: 0x32
Source Physical Address[a.b.c.d]: 4.5.0.0
YCC support 0x03, VIC (native 255):
ColorDeepSupport 0xb8 10/12/16/Y444 1/1/0/1
97 96 93 94 95 98 31 16 20 5 19 4 32 34 60 62 18 3 17 2 1 101 102 95 94 93 98 35                                                                                                                                                             3 352 357 358
Audio {format, channel, freq, cce}
{1, 1, 0x7f, 0x07}
{1, 7, 0x7f, 0x07}
{2, 7, 0x07, 0x00}
{7, 7, 0x06, 0x00}
{9, 5, 0x02, 0x00}
{10, 7, 0x06, 0x01}
{11, 7, 0x7e, 0x03}
{11, 7, 0x7e, 0x01}
{12, 7, 0x7f, 0x01}
Speaker Allocation: 0x4f
Vendor: 0xc03
MaxTMDSClock1 300 MHz
Vendor2: 0xd85dc4
MaxTMDSClock2 600 MHz
ColorMetry: 0xff
SCDC: 1
RR_Cap: 0
LTE_340M_Scramble: 0
  HDR  DeepColor
checkvalue: 0x32a20000

Directly to the LG OLED C8 with PC-mode. When I play a 4K HDR movie, I still get a “no signal”.

osmc@Vero4Kp : ~ $ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/rawedid
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

osmc@Vero4Kp : ~ $ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/edid
Rx Brand Name: GSM
Rx Product Name: LG
Manufacture Week: 1
Manufacture Year: 2018
Physical size(cm): 160 x 90
EDID Version: 1.3
EDID block number: 0x1
blk0 chksum: 0x62
Source Physical Address[a.b.c.d]: 1.0.0.0
YCC support 0x03, VIC (native 255):
ColorDeepSupport 0xb8 10/12/16/Y444 1/1/0/1
97 96 16 31 102 101 4 19 5 20 3 2 18 32 33 34 21 1 93 94 95 98 99 100 63 64 95 94 93 98 353 352 358 357
Audio {format, channel, freq, cce}
{1, 1, 0x57, 0x07}
{2, 5, 0x07, 0x00}
{10, 7, 0x07, 0x01}
{12, 7, 0x04, 0x03}
{7, 5, 0x1e, 0x00}
{11, 7, 0x7e, 0x01}
Speaker Allocation: 0x00
Vendor: 0xc03
MaxTMDSClock1 300 MHz
Vendor2: 0xd85dc4
MaxTMDSClock2 600 MHz
ColorMetry: 0xc0
SCDC: 1
RR_Cap: 0
LTE_340M_Scramble: 0
DolbyVision1 HDR DeepColor
checkvalue: 0x62c10000

This is from a directly connected LG OLED55B8SLC:

osmc@osmc:~$ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/rawedid
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
osmc@osmc:~$ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/edid
Rx Brand Name: GSM
Rx Product Name: LG
Manufacture Week: 1
Manufacture Year: 2018
Physical size(cm): 160 x 90
EDID Version: 1.3
EDID block number: 0x1
blk0 chksum: 0x62
Source Physical Address[a.b.c.d]: 4.0.0.0
YCC support 0x03, VIC (native 255):
ColorDeepSupport 0xb8 10/12/16/Y444 1/1/0/1
97 96 16 31 102 101 4 19 5 20 3 2 18 32 33 34 21 1 93 94 95 98 99 100 63 64 95 94 93 98 353 352 358 357
Audio {format, channel, freq, cce}
{1, 1, 0x57, 0x07}
{2, 5, 0x07, 0x00}
{10, 7, 0x07, 0x01}
{12, 7, 0x04, 0x03}
{7, 5, 0x1e, 0x00}
{11, 7, 0x7e, 0x01}
Speaker Allocation: 0x00
Vendor: 0xc03
MaxTMDSClock1 300 MHz
Vendor2: 0xd85dc4
MaxTMDSClock2 600 MHz
ColorMetry: 0xc0
SCDC: 1
RR_Cap: 0
LTE_340M_Scramble: 0
  DolbyVision1  HDR  DeepColor
checkvalue: 0x62d70000

So this is reporting full bandwidth on HDMI4 but roidy says HDMI4 is hobbled. Does your Onkyo re-process the video or are your Sony’s different?

There is also an enhanced setting IIRC

PC or non-PC?

With PC mode off and connected directly to the TV, I get identical results:

We got different builds, the C (2015) version got 4 full bandwidth ports unlike all newer builds, except for the F (2018) version, that one is 4 full bandwidth again it seems.

That is PC Mode, I can try without PC mode later, although I think @mellon has just done the honours on his C8.

Yep, as Theetjuh says only the 2016/17 models are hobbled. My TV has an option to make HDMI 2 and 3 full bandwidth.

No, actually, not identical. I think that’s given me enough homework, thanks!

Thanks for that. I can see the difference between vero through HDMI and DLNA on my entry-level Panny but only as the light fades away in that scene and I have to look hard. I can’t promise we can do as well as the big Japanese and Korean corporations, but we’ll try.

Here is mine, LG65C8 connected through HDFURY AVR KEY to a Yamaha 5600 Soundbar and that TV:

osmc@osmc : ~ $ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/rawedid

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

osmc@osmc : ~ $ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/edid

Rx Brand Name: GSM

Rx Product Name: LG

Manufacture Week: 1

Manufacture Year: 2018

Physical size(cm): 160 x 90

EDID Version: 1.3

EDID block number: 0x1

blk0 chksum: 0x62

Source Physical Address[a.b.c.d]: 1.1.0.0

YCC support 0x03, VIC (native 255):

ColorDeepSupport 0xb8 10/12/16/Y444 1/1/0/1

97 96 16 31 102 101 4 19 5 20 3 2 18 32 33 34 21 1 93 94 95 98 99 100 63 64 95 94 93 98 353 352 358 357

Audio {format, channel, freq, cce}

{1, 7, 0x7f, 0x07}

{2, 5, 0x07, 0x00}

{7, 5, 0x1e, 0x00}

{9, 5, 0x02, 0x00}

{10, 7, 0x06, 0x01}

{11, 7, 0x7e, 0x01}

{12, 7, 0x7e, 0x01}

Speaker Allocation: 0x5f

Vendor: 0xc03

MaxTMDSClock1 300 MHz

Vendor2: 0xd85dc4

MaxTMDSClock2 600 MHz

ColorMetry: 0xc0

SCDC: 1

RR_Cap: 0

LTE_340M_Scramble: 0

DolbyVision1 HDR DeepColor

checkvalue: 0x625d0000

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The Revenant looks the same played from my Vero 4K as it does played from the Plex app on my LG C7. I see the same gradient effect during that particular scene as it fades out. I can even see it on my Macbook Pro display.

I didn’t even know Plex on my LG C7 could directly play this kind of content and it seems like there have been updates to the app since I last used it. To be honest I can no longer remember why past-me needed the Vero 4K.

Yep, it’s not the Vero that has issues here. It’s the TV.

However, the reason you got the Vero is because the TV is limited to wired 100Mbit - which has issues at times when streaming locally over Ethernet.

Secondly, there are problems with UHD remux playback on the C7 OLED directly (either via its own app, the Plex App, or XPlay). I can’t speak for the 8-series, but the 7 series have a LOT of issues with macro blocking. If you have the The Lego Batman movie in UHD, it’s about unwatchable at times during the movie. The list of movies is huge, and is a major part of why I got a Vero. Also, no lossless Atmos/DTS-HD MA via the TV.

LG haven’t seemed to have noticed these deficiencies. I have the new LG HU80KA 4K UHD projector which has built-in apps etc, too, - and it has the same problems as the C7. I was surprised to see LG hadn’t fixed them yet. I can give you time-stamps if you need, of where the macroblocking errors occur.

Bottom line is the TV itself is a poor media player.

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Thanks for clearing that up. Often what happens is I research something, I reach a conclusion, I remember the conclusion but not the reasoning behind it.

I hear you. I’m in the exact same way. It happens to me with restaurants (less often), computer hardware/software, movies, people etc. I engage in whatever activity it is, and then go - so THAT’S why I don’t spend time with him/her, THAT’S why I didn’t like that video game etc etc.

I need to keep a list of why I bought something/didn’t buy something, because sometimes it’s mega annoying when I can’t remember!

I have no issues with banding with latest kernel on my JVC x5900 projector.

However same cable and Vero box I get banding in my LGC7.

I’m going to put it down to the TV.

On the projector it’s perfect.

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Yep. I have the 7900 (RS540) and no banding there (same Vero setup).

My setup is Vero 4K+ -> Denon S720W -> Vizio P75(2016). I seem to have no problem with HDR (TV switches to HDR10 when frame rate switching is enabled, and it’s definitely 10-bit—Apple’s Aerial videos look identical to the Apple TV 4K with DV disabled [forced 8-bit output on my Shield just to make sure and the banding is awful, as expected]). HDR autoswitch seems to do nothing. This kernel in the top post also didn’t appear to do anything, except it’s causing a problem with some low res SDR HEVC videos in my library (the videos start to play, then the screen goes black and my TV says “no signal”). I reverted according to the instructions and the problem went away. I’m not complaining, but… why is everything magically working for me when lots of other people seem to have issues? What does “HDR Autoswitching” actually do? I haven’t had HDR issues with LibreELEC on other AMLogic devices either (Khadas VIM S905X and MINIX U9-H S912).

HDR autoswitching was made optional in case it caused issues for people. With the October update it has been removed and most people seem to have a good experience. Please can you update and let us know if you have any issues with the October release.