Yes, I saw that. But no-one can say what Apple are doing is ‘wrong’ unless they know the original source material and whether they do any adjustments on that before streaming it as Profile 5 with a straight line shaper curve.
All power to reset_9999’s skills in measuring things. I just take issue with his conclusions about the causes of what he measures. There’s no reason why a straight line shaping curve should necessarily result in a ‘washed out’ look.
Indeed. I offered to send him a device for evaluation but he did not seem particularly interested in testing.
Perhaps DMDReview (YouTube) would be interested in evaluating.
I agree with grahamh, the majority of the time he makes statements and reach conclusions about the causes of what he measures without understanding why.
DMDReview is a much better resource since he has more knowledge and experience.
Definitely oversaturated. I did have a feeling it was less bright than before and more like what I see on the native player. But I was primarily paying attention to the colors. I’ll rewatch and pay more attention to the brightness.
I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on DV at all.
But I have been deep into the DV woods for the last couple weeks and I have to say, DV is a mess.
Calling it a standard is being generous IMHO.
From the very get go I was skeptical of DV because it appears to do little more than just tone down areas that would clip on your TV in most everyday situations.
I liked the idea of 12bit, but what TV has a 12bit panel?
It’s hard to imagine why most of what DV does couldn’t have just been done at the outset with the HDR10 grade.
It’s almost like the DV algo is just a lazy man’s fix for careless HDR10 grading.
Now there is potential with certain artistic trims but I have generated the comparisons clips on a few movies and watched it toggle back and forth between with and without and it is definitely nothing mind blowing and absolutely something that could have just been done in HDR10 99% of the time.
All that being said, it’s there, and people want it, so I don’t think it’s going away any time soon.
Once TVs have the nits capabilities to not clip as much then DV becomes even more niche.
I think that’s one of the reasons why Samsung never got onboard.
LG and Sony kind of had to right?
Since all their eggs were in the OLED basket and nits output is the biggest issue with OLED panels.
So they need the DV more than others did to tone everything down for their low nits panels.
The fact that the 2K BD SDR of Harry Potter was able to display that man’s face without it being blown out speaks volumes to me.
See here if you didn’t already.
Don’t waste your time. I’ve now measured the difference in chroma on your clip and we’ll have a look what’s causing it. After fixing that, any brightness differences should be easier to spot.
Quick question (sorry, searching is difficult because names too short):
Does the LG CX OLED support Tv-led or only player-led?
LG CX supports both TV-Led and Player-Led.
If I want to be on the latest DoVi improvement patch version, should I stick to the the updates from this osmc-devel repo or has the “normal” update channel surpassed the version I’m on? (I’m guessing the former?)
There’s a fix for excessive saturation on Profile 5 in the pipeline. I’m guessing it will be published to the main repo along with other 21.2 teething issue fixes. 
Indeed. There seem to be a few more issues on the forum. As @grahamh says we plan to collate them.
You guys are awesome!