Vero 4K + network speed major disappointment

I’m testing a unit as we speak.

I need to get a known affected switch from a user. This is in the post. Many switches vary internally however due to revision changes. I want to ensure I get a switch in my hands that have been tested and confirmed as problematic by a customer. It’s not a sake of saving £20.

It’s going to take a few days to resolve. If this isn’t satisfactory, I suggest you return the unit for a full refund.

Cheers

Sam

I appreciate the response.
It’s good to get some more info on the matter and that a defective unit is being actually being tested.

Really appreciate the offer of a refund as well, but I’m happy to wait and see if it can be solved by a software/driver update.

Also can you confirm that you have noticed that myself and other users have the slow network issues (wired) even when we don’t use a switch ?

So you have tested a direct cable connection from your Vero to a PC without going through any switch ?

Or do you just mean you are plugging directly into an ISP’s router ? If the latter, a router with multiple ports is still an ethernet switch to the devices connected to it…

Sorry I stand corrected.

I haven’t tested Vero>PC no, I wouldn’t know how to set this up and test it.

So yes it still went through my Asus 68U router and therefore it’s switch :grimacing:

Oops :roll_eyes:

Crossover cable and give both a static IP I’d imagine?

Most Gigabit Interfaces support auto crossover (so normal cable good enough)

Hi,

I cross over cable shouldn’t be required (most network equipment can now transmit and receive on the correct pins with a standard cable these days), but yes a static IPs on the PC and the vero would the be easiest way to do it.

Thanks Tom.

Shows how long ago it is that I used a crossover cable :smiley:

I did test my vero 4k + connected straight to my synology nas (with the nas setup as dhcp server) and only got a bandwith around 6 mb/s so that did not make a difference.

Hmmm…
Could those having the issues here please tell us what NAS they have?
I could be wrong, but I see very often Synology.
Anyway, I bet that as soon as Sam can replicate the issue, he’ll find out what’s going on anyway.

WIn10 machine. So nothing to do with Synology.

This is what I get -Vero4K+ direct to Win10 PC, cable is newly bought Cat.7 (PIMF). With my Router (Mikrotik hAP ac) I get much better results, only Tx is affected 350-600 Mbits/sec (600 is when I use 0.5m cable lenght, instead of 10m which I need for Vero)
osmc@VERO4K:~$ iperf3 -c 192.168.38.64
Connecting to host 192.168.38.64, port 5201
[ 4] local 192.168.38.70 port 34642 connected to 192.168.38.64 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Retr Cwnd
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 124 KBytes 1.02 Mbits/sec 9 1.43 KBytes
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 31.4 KBytes 257 Kbits/sec 6 1.43 KBytes
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec 1 1.43 KBytes
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec 0 1.43 KBytes
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 25.7 KBytes 210 Kbits/sec 7 2.85 KBytes
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 17.1 KBytes 140 Kbits/sec 7 4.28 KBytes
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 402 KBytes 3.30 Mbits/sec 41 4.28 KBytes
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 28.5 KBytes 234 Kbits/sec 5 4.28 KBytes
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 34.2 KBytes 280 Kbits/sec 6 1.43 KBytes
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 17.1 KBytes 140 Kbits/sec 6 2.85 KBytes


[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Retr
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 680 KBytes 557 Kbits/sec 88 sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 613 KBytes 502 Kbits/sec receiver

iperf Done.
osmc@VERO4K:~$ iperf3 -c 192.168.38.64 -R
Connecting to host 192.168.38.64, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.38.64 is sending
[ 4] local 192.168.38.70 port 34644 connected to 192.168.38.64 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 65.8 MBytes 551 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 70.4 MBytes 591 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 49.9 KBytes 409 Kbits/sec
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 510 KBytes 4.18 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 211 KBytes 1.73 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 65.6 KBytes 537 Kbits/sec
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 51.3 KBytes 420 Kbits/sec
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 55.6 KBytes 455 Kbits/sec
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 2.78 MBytes 23.3 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 345 KBytes 2.83 Mbits/sec


[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 140 MBytes 118 Mbits/sec sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 140 MBytes 118 Mbits/sec receiver

My NAS is a WDMyCloud 8tb, but that’s irrelevant to my issue as I’ve tested Vero>Router>PC
Vero>Router>Laptop
Vero>Switch>Router>PC
Vero>Switch>Router>Laptop

All with the same dismal result.

This is puzzling. I tested exactly this switch model & revision, and it certainly had the slow speed problem. I assume you have updated it to the latest firmware?

The only switch not causing slow speed was the the Atheros chip in the Mikrotik hAP ac2 and the CCR 1009.
So it really must be a combination of unfortunate events. Voltage? Noise?

Thanks - that is very useful to know. Yes it is running the latest firmware:

It’s actually my main switch at home in my TV cabinet, in addition to the 4 port switch built into my Superhub 2.

Can you post the iperf3 results when testing with the TP-Link switch, and how does it compare with other switches showing the same issue ? About the same or worse/better ?

I hope you are sitting. Because I just tested the Switch and it actually wasn’t so bad. Even Billy Lynn HFR HDR played:

root@osmckino:~# iperf3 -c whs.box
Connecting to host whs.box, port 5201
[  4] local 10.1.0.41 port 50805 connected to 10.1.0.10 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr  Cwnd
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  71.0 MBytes   595 Mbits/sec   14   39.6 KBytes
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  41.1 MBytes   345 Mbits/sec    9   22.6 KBytes
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  51.8 MBytes   434 Mbits/sec    7   39.6 KBytes
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  65.8 MBytes   552 Mbits/sec    4   42.4 KBytes
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  45.6 MBytes   383 Mbits/sec    9   24.0 KBytes
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  36.2 MBytes   304 Mbits/sec   11   25.5 KBytes
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  38.8 MBytes   326 Mbits/sec    6   46.7 KBytes
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  53.5 MBytes   449 Mbits/sec    6   35.4 KBytes
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  37.6 MBytes   315 Mbits/sec    7   42.4 KBytes
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  34.0 MBytes   285 Mbits/sec   13   45.2 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   475 MBytes   399 Mbits/sec   86             sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   474 MBytes   398 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

Strange. Could I be so wrong? Then I connected the Vero to a different port (7, it was on 2).

Tada:

root@osmckino:~# iperf3 -c whs.box
Connecting to host whs.box, port 5201
[  4] local 10.1.0.41 port 50918 connected to 10.1.0.10 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr  Cwnd
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  11.0 MBytes  92.7 Mbits/sec   67   8.48 KBytes
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  10.5 MBytes  88.0 Mbits/sec   71   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  14.5 MBytes   121 Mbits/sec   51   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  15.5 MBytes   130 Mbits/sec   53   17.0 KBytes
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  12.2 MBytes   102 Mbits/sec   57   8.48 KBytes
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  12.7 MBytes   107 Mbits/sec   59   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  13.1 MBytes   110 Mbits/sec   64   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  12.1 MBytes   101 Mbits/sec   56   12.7 KBytes
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  11.2 MBytes  94.1 Mbits/sec   62   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  10.9 MBytes  91.3 Mbits/sec   66   7.07 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   124 MBytes   104 Mbits/sec  606             sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   124 MBytes   104 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

This is crazy!

EDIT: Switch type, revision & firmware is same as yours. All ports are dumb switched, Flow control off, auto negotiation, no VLAN.

EDIT2:
This is Vero on port 1:

root@osmckino:~# iperf3 -c whs.box
Connecting to host whs.box, port 5201
[  4] local 10.1.0.41 port 50977 connected to 10.1.0.10 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr  Cwnd
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  7.93 MBytes  66.5 Mbits/sec   89   5.66 KBytes
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  8.59 MBytes  72.1 Mbits/sec   80   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  8.96 MBytes  75.2 Mbits/sec  101   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  6.81 MBytes  57.1 Mbits/sec   92   4.24 KBytes
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  5.69 MBytes  47.7 Mbits/sec   86   4.24 KBytes
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  6.12 MBytes  51.4 Mbits/sec   87   4.24 KBytes
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  6.44 MBytes  54.0 Mbits/sec   90   4.24 KBytes
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  4.49 MBytes  37.7 Mbits/sec   90   5.66 KBytes
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  8.96 MBytes  75.2 Mbits/sec   79   7.07 KBytes
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  9.88 MBytes  82.9 Mbits/sec  109   5.66 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  73.9 MBytes  62.0 Mbits/sec  903             sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  73.8 MBytes  61.9 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

EDIT3:
Must have been be a coincidence. Vero back on port2 is bad. As expected. But maybe it is temperature related? Voltage?

root@osmckino:~# iperf3 -c whs.box
Connecting to host whs.box, port 5201
[  4] local 10.1.0.41 port 51023 connected to 10.1.0.10 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr  Cwnd
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  17.1 MBytes   144 Mbits/sec   33   12.7 KBytes
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  16.1 MBytes   135 Mbits/sec   37   15.6 KBytes
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  18.0 MBytes   151 Mbits/sec   36   12.7 KBytes
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  18.1 MBytes   152 Mbits/sec   31   21.2 KBytes
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  19.5 MBytes   164 Mbits/sec   42   11.3 KBytes
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  16.2 MBytes   136 Mbits/sec   52   11.3 KBytes
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  23.1 MBytes   194 Mbits/sec   30   21.2 KBytes
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  19.0 MBytes   159 Mbits/sec   34   14.1 KBytes
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  18.3 MBytes   153 Mbits/sec   36   15.6 KBytes
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  17.9 MBytes   150 Mbits/sec   40   7.07 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   183 MBytes   154 Mbits/sec  371             sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   183 MBytes   154 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

If it happens with temperature, then that would be interesting.

I’ll post some more details shortly.

Sam

Hello all,

Yesterday I received my vero 4k + and after initial setup I started mounting my Synology NAS via fstab. The vero did indeed mount my NFS shares but then the problem started. First of it was real slow reading the shares but worse; it would not play any movie but just froze up. This was all on a wired connection through a switch. I tried rebooting everything (router,nas,vero) but still no joy. I checked my raspberry pi with the same fstab setup and also wired on the switch and it played just fine.

I connected the vero straight to the router but it kept freezing up or just keep loading any movie I wanted to play. Getting a little bit desperate I started to tinker a bit with the fstab file but knowing not much of Linux I kinda of messed it up and decided to start fresh and I reinstalled Kodi through the OSMC installer also hoping this would resolve my network problem. Sadly this was not the case. So i turned to the wireless connection an to my surprise everything was working perfect. Really fast and responsive.

So now I’m beginning to think that I 'm having a problem in my network. Today I bought a new cat 6 network kabel and tried again connecting the vero straight to the router and unplugging everything else besides my NAS. But again the very same problems occurred.

I am now at the end of my wits. I read on the forum that an Iperf test wil come in handy for this so I am trying to google my way into this because I am not familiar with this but I think I’ll manage. So let’s see how far I get with that. In the meanwhile I will provide my logs in the hope someone can figure out what’s the problem or if there’s something I am just missing. Any advice will be most welcome.

https://paste.osmc.tv/pagavuzugo

Hi,

Have your tried restarting the router?

Results of iperf3 would be interesting as well, few things things to try.

I suggest connecting a wired device running either windows or linux and issuing the following command:

iperf3 -s

Then from the vero4k+ connected to the switch issue:

iperf3 -c ip.of.device 

I suggest repeating the above with router connected directly to the router.

Also could try reversing the tests aswell, on the vero:

iperf3 -s

Then on the device connected to the router:

iperf3 -c ip.of.vero4k+

Thanks Tom.

Are you using a powerline adapter?

Sam