If I could make a suggestion, since cooling is kind of a controversial topic maybe you guys could offer another larger case with a bigger heatsink that has an area with a removable hatch where a fan could be optionally added.
The thing with the pi for instance is that there are options on heatsinks and active cooling if you desire it and while thats nice the pi doesnt have the same horsepower or the layer 1 wayland keys which is why I bought this device. Giving the consumer options with cooling though might make the Vero a more attractive buy for some people.
What about the lifespan of the device. It seems like video playing temps around 75-80C arent unusual with this device under normal conditions. I mean thats basically as bad as a pi with absolutely no heatsink ect. I mean they too dont shut down due to excessive heat but theres still a reason they sell active cooling and heatsinks for pis, because computers last longer and run better cool.
I understand that the open source community has a feeling of doing free work for nothing and that may be the case for the software here but, the Vero is an expensive product. Its direct more corporate competition in terms of price is the Nvidia Shield and while this is more so a product for open source enthusiasts it would be nice if the open source model actually led to things being better in terms of caring about the lifespan support and consumer options of the device.
While it is not a problem for the device, it is āunusualā I expect the Vero V (similar as the Vero 4k) to rund more in the 60-70c area unless you have installed a demanding Skin or running other Addons/Applications.
As you can see below the Vero V actually runs slightly cooler than the Vero 4k and the Vero 4k running at those temperature is still running fine after 6 years of 24/7 operations so I can not see any reasons for your concerns.
I use unity as a skin which isnt default but It doesnt seem intensive, my addons are mostly just streaming apps for tv.
Id believe Id get much closer to the 4k temps youve listed maybe with spikes when Im streaming with the device for extended periods. Its out in the open on a dresser. The only thing I could possibly think would differ on a fundimental basis is my ambient room temperature is around 25 C which might be about 3-5 degrees hotter than a lot of people. Sometimes it goes up to 26-27 C.
The radator in my room is hotter than other parts of the house.
Yeh hardware acceleration is on in most codecs in video settings and its non local streaming. Idk really what will happen to the performance if I turn that off. If it will still process 4k and such fine then I might. It only has a setting for HD and up but it may only need it for 4K rather than 1080 or 720.
If you turn it off your temperatures will go UP!
That is the reason I ask. Ensure that your addon/codecs are supporting HW decoding and your temperature will stay low.
Although Iām sure there are some people who run heatsinks on RPiās for longevity that isnāt really the primary reason they exist which is to allow them to run faster. If a modern CPU gets too hot it will frequency throttle and a heatsink helps avoid that. Additionally a cooler running CPU will tend to allow more overclocking than without a cooling solution. As for the longevity factor I remember that being a topic of discussion decades ago with PCās and most of the talked died down once the research data started coming in and they found that CPUās running hot decreased their life span BUT it was something like a decrease of a 30 year expected use to 20 years. As the decreased life was still way beyond both the expected usefulness of the machine as well as beyond the expected lifespan of other components on the mainboard it became a non-issue.
"Anything under 60 degrees C (140 degrees F) is perfect. Just above this temperature is okay, but as you creep above 70 degrees C (158 degrees F), you should look at how to cool your PC down.
Above 81 degrees C (178 degrees F) is too hot and could cause damage to your computer if you run it for a sustained period. Beyond this, you should shut down your PC and let it completely cool down. Obviously, this is especially something to watch out for in the summer."
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Iāve seen temps above 81C just playing youtube videos which is normal operation, please stop pretending this is ok.
If you were going to cite a reference it should have been one written by someone who had the smallest notion of what they were talking about. I couldnāt get past the first couple paragraphs of that as the level of ignorance was beyond my tolerance. Someone who writes āHeat is a natural by-product of electricityā shouldnāt be cited as an authoritative reference. Desktop CPUās for many years now have been capable of operating at up to 100C. The performance penalty only comes when a CPU clocks itself back to lower its temperature. The processor in the Vero V isnāt thermal throttling at 81C because that is still within the safe limits that it is designed to run under.
Well I cant unless I run logs all the time, not sure how to do that without the annoying overlay but it only happens once in a while when Im running videos for a bit
