Someone mentioned that this didn’t affect LE; so I’ve asked the LE guys about this.
@dbmandrake has a FLIRC, so I’ve asked him to test with his Harmony and report back.
Sam
I’ve had a look at this with my Flirc and Harmony One remote and I’m not seeing an issue, however I know what it probably is. It’s not related to inter-key delay in the flirc - that has nothing to do with it.
Harmony remotes by default continue to repeat the IR code for quite a long time after you release the button. This can be adjusted on the following screens for the device that you have assigned to the Flirc profile:
From memory the default is either 2 or 3. I find with most devices (including my Xbox One) that the default repeats for too long, so long ago I reduced the repeat setting to zero as shown in the screenshots.
The repeat delay in Kodi is now 400mS - we’re not sure what it was before, it may have been controlled by settings in Linux itself, however I’m pretty sure it was more than 400mS.
If the remote continues to repeat the IR code for longer than the Kodi repeat delay you will get a duplicate press no matter how briefly you press the button on the remote.
So it’s a combination of Kodi having too short a repeat delay and the remote repeating the IR code for too long with a short button press.
For those using a Harmony remote you could try reducing the setting I’ve shown in the screenshot to zero for the “device” that your Flirc is configured as, this should solve the problem. If anyone tries this with their harmony remote can you please let me know what the repeat setting was set to by default (2 or 3 I think) so I can set mine this to test the problem further.
I’ve also asked @sam_nazarko if he could create a test build with Kodi’s repeat delay increased to 600mS to see if this will solve the problem without any changes on the remote side, as some remotes may not be able to have their repeat delays adjusted.
I need the VID/PIDs of FLIRCs to make some changes.
Can affected users please:
I have the FLIRC 2. I don’t know how to do the first thing you ask, install usb-utils etc. I’m happy to go back through the upgrade and do what you need if you can post directions.
My remote is a remote used by a satellite TV vendor in the UK but it perfect for media boxes like Kodi / OSMC due to the buttons it contains, when mapped with FLIRC. It does mean however I can’t adjust the repeat time as mentioned a post above.
Remote here for anyone looking for a good option: Sky Accessories
ok, I’ve upgraded to the latest release again.
Logged in to the OSMC box via putty and ran:
Sudo apt-get update
Sudo apt-get install usbutils
lsusb
the output is:
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 20a0:0006 Clay Logic
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8153 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
I have 1 USB extender cable + FLIRC 2 plugged in, plus 1 USB > Ethernet adaptor
When I remove the USB extender cable nothing changes on the lsusb output
That’s it.
I try to reproduce the problem, but i am not able to.
my setup:
Should i test something else except updating the FLIRC firmware and see if the new one hast the problem? Does anybody know how to downgrade FLIRC firmware, so that i can go back to 3.7.0, then i will test the latest one.
Edit: Same on my Vero 4k+. I can not reproduce.
@DanOnline @steamship @JJK9 @new_account @darekk @PhilC @dnwhoop02 and anyone else having problems with unwanted repeats after the last update.
We think we’ve identified the cause and a potential fix for this problem. If you want to try the fix ahead of time and give feedback as to whether it fixes it for you please try the following:
Via SSH first install the ir-keytable package:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ir-keytable
Next create a udev rule file by creating a new blank file in nano:
sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/70-input-repeat.rules
Then copy and paste the following into nano:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="input", KERNEL=="event[0-9]*", GOTO="start"
GOTO="end"
LABEL="start"
# don't change eventlircd device settings
ATTRS{name}=="lircd", GOTO="end"
# don't change settings of rc remotes
SUBSYSTEMS=="rc", GOTO="end"
# set default repeat delay to 500ms like rc remotes
RUN+="/usr/bin/ir-keytable --delay=500 --period=50 --device=$devnode"
LABEL="end"
MOD EDIT: This patch is no longer working with updated versions of OSMC and should not be created. The issue being that the version of ir-keytable no longer will take a --device argument and therefore will no let you set the repeat delay on a device not running through lircd like a FLIRC. The method to change this setting as of OSMC’s Bullseye update will be to use a program called “evrepeat”. If your reading this and you had already created the file above you should delete it.
That’ll be why you’re not seeing a problem. I tried increasing my harmony to 3, which started causing the issue on almost every press, but with it set to 0 (my setting) or 1 (your default) I didn’t see a problem.
From what you say it looks like 1 is the default in the new harmony software for new configurations - in the old software it was (years ago when I set up my remote) definitely 2 or 3 as I always found I had to reduce it on most of my devices, not just Flirc.
In any case we found that the new default repeat delay was only 250ms - which IMHO is far too short. This default actually comes from the Linux OS itself, probably in the source code for the keyboard device driver in the kernel, however we can override it as in my previous post.
Even though you’re not having a problem you might want to try the suggested fix to ensure that your remote still works well. (Mine does, both set to 0 or 3) What you should notice after applying the fix is that there is an obvious increase in the delay between when you press the button and it starts repeating, from 250ms to 500ms.
Testing this by pressing and holding up or down on a list of Movies/TV Shows is probably the best way to notice the difference.
Guys…
You’ve nailed it with the above. Perfect and back to how it was in previous version of Kodi / OSMC.
Many thanks, amazing support as always.
I haven’t updated my libreelec build to Leia yet, as I was worried I’d have the same issue. Can I apply the same fix to them if it has the same key repeat issue?
I’m not familiar with coding in Kodi, so will have to wait for an update, but from the replies already posted, it’s look like you’ve got it sussed. That’s great news.
It’s a 2min job to make the change, you’ll just need to download an application called Putty to log into the OSMC box and apply the change. I’m happy to write a more detailed step by step if you want to have a go at it. It really is easy, even for a novice. I learnt the basics from a few internet searches.
Thanks very much for the offer. You wouldn’t believe it, but I’ve 25+ years in IT experience (all aspects) and the best part of another 10 years prior to that of interest. Personal circumstances changed and now I’ve problems stringing two words together, never mind doing a bit of programming. Since I rely a lot on my Kodi setup, I’d rather not risk screwing it up, so may just wait for the update.
Works perfectly again, thank you so much. OSMC seems to be the most stable version of Kodi on my RPI3 but this issue prevented me from using it.
Thanks for the confirmation that it fixes the problem for you. Out of interest which remote do you use with the flirc, and do you find the repeat speed when held down to be comfortable to use when scrolling in lists ? (eg not too slow and not crazy fast)
I think the plan is to have an update out in a few days that addresses this problem however we have a little bit more testing we want to do with different remotes before then.
This should also resolve the issue with suspend waking up on Vero 4K / 4K + if the repeat presses are causing this.
Sam
I have a [non FLIRC] USB remote that had the key-repeat problem, and this fixed it for me.
Thanks for the swift fix.
I use a One for all Contour 8 universal remote. Link, I cant remember what remote profile it’s using with the Flirc as it was years ago and I just chose a random remote to learn and programmed the buttons into the Flirc app.
I can’t really comment on the scrolling speed when holding the button as it’s never worked properly for me on any version of Kodi using the Flirc, possibly due to the remote i’m using and so I tend to just use the scroll bar to quickly get close to the series/movie im looking for and then use individual clicks on the titles to navigate to the correct one/
You won’t need to. An LE developer (HiassofT) helped us with the solution in their Slack.
Sam