Vero 4K General Discussion

Vero 4K will decode 10-bit HDR (as you can tell from the sample above).

Output can depend on TV’s capabilities.

Can you paste the EDID of your TV (/sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/rawedid) so I can see what your TV is advertising as supported?

Sam

$ osmc@Vero4k:~$ cat /sys/class/amhdmitx/amhdmitx0/rawedid
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

I’m basing this off of what my Receiver is indicating that it’s receiving. My other HDR devices (Samsung UBD-K8500 Ultra HD Blu-ray player, Roku Premiere+, PS4 Pro) all report 10-bit or 12-bit on this screen. Let me know if there is somewhere that I can check the actual bit-depth of the Vero 4k’s output.

@sam_nazarko was that information helpful? Let me know if you need anything else…

Unfortunately this is done ‘internally’ and there’s no way to easily check this at the time. It might be possible for me to add some more verbose logging in the future.

The decision is expected to be automatic. I’ll look at the best way to handle this.

Sam

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Am i missing something but given this supports 801.11ac, surely there will be a potential for higher throughput using wifi instead of ethernet?

I know it has been suggested that 100mbps ethernet should be enough, but i am nervous this may not be enough when streaming high bit rate video via a network drive.

I should add I have ordered the Vero 4k and looking forward to it arriving to replace my slightly dodgy Minix x8-h Plus. I had very good experience of OSMC with my raspberry pi 1 & 2 so happing this will only be better.

Yes – in good environmental conditions, 802.11ac will beat Ethernet. But it can vary more than a wire.

I get about 200Mbps a couple of rooms away, but prefer Ethernet as it makes testing easier for me (just plug in the cable)

Sam

Oh I absolutely get that, in general i will always go with Ethernet, but i am just thinking in my case my TV and therefore Vero when it arrives will be less than 2 metres from my router so the conditions are relatively optimum.

Give WIFi a go first then, sounds like it would be more ideal in this situation.

Sam

Just googled a bit regarding the “limitation” to 96KHz of the S905x, which isn’t a hardware limitation like you said.

Found this regarding the issue: https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread-2156-post-45646.html#pid45646
and this: https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread-2156-post-44038.html#pid44038
Over at LibreELEC it seems that they managed to get 192KHz out of a S905x chip with some software adjustments.

In their Changelog it says:

8.0.1f (2017-04-16)
Downloads: http://kszaq.libreelec.tv/s905/8.0.1f
Device trees: http://kszaq.libreelec.tv/s905/device_trees/
Source code: GitHub - kszaq/LibreELEC.tv at 8.0.1f

Changelog:

audio-related changes:
    [...]
    176.4kHz and 192kHz might be working now on S905X

Would it be possible to replicate this for the Vero 4k to allow Stereo and Multichannel 192KHz samplerates via HDMI?

We have a kernel update (still needs some testing however) with working 192Khz output. This is obviously only possible via HDMI

Sam

Oh, awesome! Of course, I was only referring to HDMI when it comes to 192kHz multichannel output as there are files out there with 192kHz and 5.1 to 7.1 channels… The capability of unlimited HDMI PCM multichannel playback, beside the fact that the Vero 4k can also output bitstreamed DTS-HD, DTS:X, Dolby TrueHD and Dobly Atmos, was also one important reason for me to get your new device.

192kHz/24bit stereo playback is supported via S/PDIF or does your reply mean that stereo will stay limited to 96kHz/24bit when not played back via HDMI?

Any idea when one might expect that update to be available for us users?

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Multi-channel PCM isn’t possible with the SPDIF output.

The update will probably be available for testing in early May, and would then be released at the end of that month. It’s not far off.

I know that… I was referring to stereo PCM via S/PDIF. Is that also limited to 96/24 or was the limitation only HDMI/multichannel related?

That’s good to hear! Thanks already for the effort

Stereo can do 192/24 via SPDIF or rather it will be able to in the future.

Sam

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Future means with the kernel changes coming up some time in May? [quote=“sam_nazarko, post:215, topic:22904”]
The update will probably be available for testing in early May, and would then be released at the end of that month. It’s not far off.
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Well, cheers for the replies! Vero 4k now definitely feels like the perfect media player for my needs.
Just waiting for Netflix and Amazon Prime Video hopefully coming and working properly with Kodi 18…

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Still seeing 8-bit output for 10-bit content with the April '17 update

@swrobel Indeed – that’s why we haven’t marked it as fixed in this update.

The good news is I can see the issue (it’s how some TVs advertise their capabilities) and will have an update for you soon. I’ll let you know when it’s ready for testing if you don’t mind being a (slight) guineau pig.

Sam

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Ready and waiting! :hamster:

This might be a silly question but if a 4K file has DTS-HD 7.1 but I only have a 5.1 system will the Vero 4K downmix to 5.1 only? I don’t want to be missing channels.

If you use passthrough, your receiver needs to do that as downmixing requires decoding.