Vero 4K General Discussion

Oh, I’m pretty sure this will never matter to me, but 10bit is hardware supported only for H265 right, 10bit H264 is not listed.

Vero 4K can play a multitude of video formats, including MPEG-2, VC-1, H264, H265 / HEVC and 10-bit HEVC.

Correct.

I’m not aware of any hardware decoder in the world that supports 10-bit H264. It’s typically found in old anime rips. I’d say that’s usually not relevant, but judging from your forum avatar, it may well be! The good news is the scene seems to have moved on from this.

Sam

Thanks for letting me know, I wasn’t actually aware that there was total lack of hardware support for it but I guess if no one supports it then no one’s going to use it anyway so there’s no problem. The avatar is coincidence by the way, not a fan of anime!

Looking forward to my new toy.

That’s the general concensus. Unfortunately the anime scene produced 10-bit H264 for some time until moving on to HEVC. The latter I can understand.

You shouldn’t have any issues with playback.

What class of 802.11ac is the Vero 4k? 1x1, 2x2, 3x3? ( ie 433, 866 or 1300mbps? )

2 (RX) x1 (TX) 433Mbps SDIO

Recent iperf test, note less than optimal TCP window size and the client was the Vero 4K

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Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
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[  3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47374 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   238 MBytes   199 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47376 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   205 MBytes   172 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47377 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.4 sec   159 MBytes   129 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47378 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   213 MBytes   179 Mbits/sec
root@osmc:/home/osmc# iperf -c 192.168.1.100
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.100, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  3] local 192.168.1.14 port 47380 connected with 192.168.1.100 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   227 MBytes   190 Mbits/sec

Good enough for any real-world content to be played back

Fair enough, I assumed it likely was something along those lines, as that indeed should really be enough for media streaming in most situations.

Indeed. If we try 866 or 1300, most devices won’t do it, it’s not guaranteed real world (I certainly don’t get it on my laptop!), and it’s an unjustified price increase.

USB 2.0 caps out at 480mbps anyway, so IO on Vero 4K wouldn’t benefit from this anyway.

Sam

As an aside, just noticed that the CE mark is incorrectly spaced on the underside of the device in photos seen on thread :stuck_out_tongue:

FLAC5.1 and FLAC7.1 are decoded and played back correctly right? Does Kodi do it, or OSMC? Regardless, it can do it right?

Eg. if I convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC7.1 it’ll playback identically (as it should)?

EDIT: This is more of an OSMC help/non Vero question, sorry. Posted while not thinking about the decoding being done purely on a software level. I’ll repost it there if you’d like.

Heh, @simonbrunton designed the label. I did warn him about the two different meanings of the mark. We’ll resolve that.

Yes – it’ll be decoded to LPCM by Kodi.

Well, just wanted to thank the OSMC team for making the Vero 4k, I got mine a couple of days ago.

I know that there are many cheap devices that can play 4k videos but once you have a problem you can just throw them away.

With the experience of the OSMC team I am sure we’re going to get a beautiful experience, along with the best support.

I began watching 4k movies (I love documentaries) and never had issues with any of them, even with downloads going on while playing in streaming from my NAS to the Vero 4k.

Thank you for OSMC and Vero 4k. Keep up the good work!

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Hi

Glad to hear you’re enjoying Vero 4K.
If you do run in to any issues, let us know, and we’ll put them right.

Thank you for your support. You’re helping us grow OSMC.

Sam

The more i read about the future of TV / Projectors / Content, the more i read that the increased colors / dynamic range / brightness is far more noticeable than the increased resolution to the average user.

Can anyone tell me in more details about the HDR / Colour abilities of the Vero 4K

i think the official standard is HDR10, but that might just be the dynamic range and the the colour spec.

I’m looking into the Epson Home Cinema 5040UB

It will do HDR10 and we will continue to improve these capabilities

It doesn’t do Dolby Vision: at least not for now

Sam

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that’s great to hear.
have you had to make any modifications to Kodi to allow for HDR10?
i remember seeing written it wasn’t supported…

Did you read this specifically for the Vero 4K?
Kodi’s capabilities will vary depending on the hardware it runs on: for example some devices cannot pass through HD audio.

HDR10 decodes fine on my Vero 4K. It’s output as 8-bit currently (all my display supports); chromatic modes can also be set manually; although the kernel will try and pick the best one (may need refinement in the future).

just talk on the kodi forums mostly
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=304687

That is for PC, not related to Vero 4K. Different hardware = different capability

I have an LG OLED display that supports 4K but the Vero 4k will only output 8 bit even when playing HDR10 content.