Vero4k+ announcement

[shiro35]

Whats about exact HW specs? I read about faster storage, gigabit LAN and more performance. But what exactly have changed?

For example, regarding CPU, does it have still the same S905x quad-core at 1.5Ghz, or newer S912 octa-core?

How was gigabit LAN added? I heard something about problems with system interrupts or overhead while file transfers (or something like this) when they tested it with Vero 4K. Because of this, it does not have gigabit LAN. Was those problems resolved in Vero 4K+ ?

Still no usb 3.0?

How much faster is internal storage?

[Chillbo]

Please wait for the official announcement

[sam_nazarko]

It’s now announced here: Vero 4K + is here - OSMC

[sam_nazarko]

@Rock_Danger

Kinda disappointed in this. My vero4k was unable to support some display modes and I have never used it past the setup stage. I was going to send it back but the problem is being worked on. Had I known it would run this long and also into the release of a new unit (one with a gigabit adapter on board) I would have sent it back and waited.

I will get this resolved for you. Some users have projectors that do not accept 4:4:4 chroma, so it’s definitely on our radar.

The Vero 4K remains supported and as @bmillham states, fixes for one device will benefit users with the other.

[sam_nazarko]

@shiro35

For example, regarding CPU, does it have still the same S905x quad-core at 1.5Ghz, or newer S912 octa-core?

We didn’t use an S912. There are a couple of problems with this chip:

• Task scheduling is broken, which means that threads are often placed on the little cores. This makes it slower than S905 devices under a series of workloads
• Mali userspace libraries are not licensed for Linux. Kodi on Linux for S912 uses an Android driver and a libhybris wrapper which causes some issues. Kodi v19 will use V4L2/GBM, so this workaround would not be possible. It wouldn’t make sense for us to launch a new product with a shorter lifespan than our former product.

@shiro35

How was gigabit LAN added? I heard something about problems with system interrupts or overhead while file transfers (or something like this) when they tested it with Vero 4K. Because of this, it does not have gigabit LAN. Was those problems resolved in Vero 4K+ ?

Gigabit Ethernet is added by muxing an external PHY with the internal PHY pins. This gives us about 940Mbps (TX and RX) in real world. The Ethernet isn’t connected via USB, so there are no bottlenecks there.

@shiro35

Still no usb 3.0?

We have no plans for this. The implementation is cost prohibitive and USB 2.0 is good enough.

@shiro35

How much faster is internal storage?

It’s about three times faster based on random read/write benchmarks.

Cheers

Sam

[WilliamG]

Man…

Just bought 2 more.

Sigh.

One of the biggest things for me is the blue LED removal. Lol. Drove me nuts since day 1.

[WilliamG]

Sam, what is “improved performance?”

Faster processor?

[sam_nazarko]

The eMMC (internal storage) is faster. We are also able to run the GPU at a higher base clock.

Sam

[WilliamG]

@sam_nazarko

The eMMC (internal storage) is faster. We are also able to run the GPU at a higher base clock.

Sam

I see. Roger that. When is shipping supposed to start? Want them yesterday.

Even though I have two Vero 4Ks already.

Diseased…

[gpmc]

Hi Sam,
there is only one picture of new Vero 4K+ in the announcement topic.
May you add some more views?
Thanks

[sam_nazarko]

Very soon – we still start from bottom up in the order people purchased in.

Cheers

Sam

[sam_nazarko]

@gpmc

Hi Sam,
there is only one picture of new Vero 4K+ in the announcement topic.
May you add some more views?
Thanks

On the new website we’re working on I plan to do a 360 image which lets people see the entire device.

The device is slightly smaller (height) but everything else (ports etc) stay the same.

Sam

[WilliamG]

@sam_nazarko

Very soon – we still start from bottom up in the order people purchased in.

Cheers

Sam

Roger that. Very nice. This seems like a sweet little upgrade. How are the temperature levels compared to the outgoing model?

[sam_nazarko]

Thermals should be good. We have a larger heatsink in place now.

Sam

[WilliamG]

Nice one, Sam.

[WilliamG]

Last question:

Has mine shipped yet?

How about now?

Now?

How about…now?

[sam_nazarko]

It depends what you consider shipping.

Sam

[WilliamG]

[retroresolution]

Unfortunately the discount is the same price I paid for the now outdated model three months ago

[WilliamG]

@retroresolution

Unfortunately the discount is the same price I paid for the now outdated model three months ago

Before it gets out of hand… this is just the nature of technology. If you have an outgoing model, you’re still getting the same support you always were, from the same great people. It’s not like your Vero 4K suddenly is crap now.

Look, we all want to have the best tech yesterday, and never feel like it’s out of date etc. But it’s likely unreasonable to expect Sam to throw 50% off coupons around to those who bought a Vero 4K recently. This isn’t a huge company.

Personally, I had the chance to use a referral coupon to save 10% and chose NOT to so that I’m paying MORE for my Vero 4K+. Sometimes it’s not about the money.

This is a fairly niche area. There’s nothing out there as good or well-supported as these devices are. While I want everything for free, I recognize awesomeness when I see it, and I want to support that in whatever way I can.

That means an order of two Vero 4Ks just two months ago for me, and two Vero 4K+ as of today.