Probably about 4 years and I’ve definitely had my money’s worth. I was thinking more along the line of when you buy a new phone, and you trade-in the old for a discount on the newer model. It’s just after purchasing the upgrade, I imagine there will be a lot of people with devices they are no longer using and wondered whether you could repurpose them, rather than them being left in a drawer or sent to land-fill.
Just an idea anyway and I shouldn’t say this but I’d be happy to pay full price anyhow!
Sure, that was just an example, and of course I would flog on ebay etc if I have to but just wondered if there might be another route. A board on here could be a good idea as suggested below.
The drawer isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If something goes sideways and family members are screaming having a backup is a very nice luxury to have. There is also buying another TV for another room , giving it to a family member (maybe lock down the UI and throw some stuff on a SD that grandma would like), or just use it like you would a Raspberry Pi and turn it into a file server or something else useful like that. After all you have full access to the operating system with these devices.
Agree.
I have 2 Vero 4 and 1 Vero 4K, and using them daily, they perform fine and do what they are supposed to do
But nevertheless i am ordering the new Vero V when it is released, just because i can and to support OSMC
Quite, but those trade-ins never seemed like good value to me.
Sam, but not Samsung
You probably got it for £99. Over 4 years, I’d say that’s good value. There are some users that bought the 4K in February 2017 and are still using it 6.5 years later.
The idea isn’t to provide something cheap that has to be replaced frequently, so the initial outlay might seem on the higher side, but over time it should pay off.
I think omitting a discount (because of the complexities, etc.), but prioritising existing users is a good idea. From an owner of 2x Vero 4K+ (purchased in 2018 and 2021), and a replacement power supply.
I bought my Vero4K+ in November '22. Not expecting any trade-in, not for a product in this price range.
I furthermore would be considering whether to substitute my fully fledged HTPC with the new product, hence adding a second Vero to my home, not substituting the existing one.
Yeah, absolutely. My point was that, for the price you ask, I think it’s unreasonable (not wanting to offend anyone, just the way I see it) to expect trade-ins or whatever.
Your product offers great value, especially when one considers the support and development that goes with it.
would you tease us a little about some of the features of the new Vero V? What will be better or what will be feautures the 4k+ don’t have? Will there be any kind of Dolby Vision support? What about AV1?
Will we have a preorder option here in Germany?
Thank you for your hard work on this amazing OSMC products!
Dolby Vision has also been discussed before in other threads - for example, Dolby Vision . The short version (as of the last time it was discussed) is that it will not be supported, for reasons that are legal rather than technical. DV has to be licensed by Dolby, and some of the restrictions on the system that they require to allow it would fundamentally destroy the open source nature of OSMC.
You can, of course, already play a DV UHD blu ray remux (DV profile 7) by simply playing the HDR10 layer and ignoring DV. There has been some discussion about the possibility of playing a single layer (DV profile 5) file by converting it to HDR10 on the fly - meaning it would play with correct colours, but without the dynamic HDR metadata. Don’t hold your breath for this; but last we heard it was still being looked into. If that does ever happen, I would guess it might be supported on the Vero 4K as well.
Sam is still being a bit cagey about that, but the stuff that we know about is mainly a somewhat more powerful CPU (which may possibly make general navigation a bit more snappy), faster built-in flash memory, one of the USB ports being USB 3.0 (which will be helpful if you want to attach a hard drive directly to the Vero), and the aforementioned support for AV1. Given the choice of SoC you should probably expect to be an evolution rather than a revolution.
, giving it to a family member (maybe lock down the UI and throw some stuff on a SD that grandma would like), or just use it like you would a Raspberry Pi and turn it into a file server or something else useful like that. After all you have full access to the operating system with these devices.