New Vero?

What does that have to do with streaming services? I only know of one streaming service not using profile 5. Where do you think all those downloads come from? Just because the release groups hack them to be profile 8.1 doesn’t change the fact that they were originally P5.

Takes one to know one. Can you even read? There is no P7 STDL spec from Dolby. P7 is always DTDL and always on disc. That is what it was designed for by Dolby. Again, just because someone else comes up with a hack to change that doesn’t make it legit or change the facts about P7. And there is no profile 8. There is 8.1, 8.2 or 8.4.

He doesn’t know what he means. Clearly he doesn’t have a clue.

Again, this is a hack and has nothing to do with Dolby spec. Dolby never intended for P7 to be converted (or played on anything other than a BR player). If you want to use this hack then buy one of the players supporting it.

Ask the streaming providers. They are the ones that choose 5 over 8.1.

Except hacks don’t make them legit profiles. I agree that profile 5 and 8.1 would be nice to have but I believe OSMC has already provided their stance on that and there are plenty of other options for that.

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Hmmm. I think you’ll find that’s what it’s called and the decimal number just indicates compatibility.

Just saying.

I know but P8 is really the only profile in use today where the CCID even matters, right? Profile 5 has no other options (the CCID field is literally 0) so it’s never anything but 5. and profile 7 has only one option so just calling it 7 or 7.6 doesn’t matter. Obviously 8.1 is actually what has been discussed here and part of me wanted to see if the troll would dig a deeper hole for himself.

What I’m hoping for with the Vero V is that deinterlacing can at least be disabled for hardware accelerated playback of “frame interlaced” h264 and VC-1. Still keeping my fingers crossed.

That would be nice, certainly! (You can already do that for VC-1 videos on the Vero 4K, but not for h.264).

@sam_nazarko or @grahamh do we know yet if the Vero V enables diagonal filtering in the way the Vero 4K used to before the switch to the 4.9 kernel? And does it have the same issue the 4K has of not being able to output a 25fps video at 50Hz without playback sometimes being jerky?

In order to leverage all the work done on 4.9 the plan is to stick with it for V for the time being. As such, the decoders are the same so the VC1 codec offers the same switch while the h264 codec doesn’t.

I haven’t spent much time testing that but IIRC the extra horsepower improves things. Don’t know about diagonal filtering. There’s nothing in the kernel code or datasheets that’s an obvious knob to adjust deinterlacing methods.

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Behave. All members of this forum deserve respect.

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shame, but I see the rationale. Might the new hardware offer improvements in terms of what it does on auto? I have a large collection of “progressive” 1080/50i h264 in my library, and in my main system where there’s upscaling to 4K, I exclusively use playback hardware that can fully bypass deinterlacing for such content as the improvement in picture quality is substantial. But still intrigued to see how the Vero V will do and hope its launch goes well.

just bought my 2nd replacement remote out of 3 vero4k+'s. i gulped when you mentioned an internal one, but if you can just use a usb one (and disable the internal somehow) i guess that’s ok.

I would check your environment because one failing is very rare but I’ve never had a customer have two fail.

Let Sam have the Time to make another perfect Product for us, my Vero4K is still running without issues.

A new remote with better Battery would be nice.

It’s not necessary to disable the internal one. Remotes can coexist.

when can we expect some footage about the new box and interface?

The interface has not changed.

Hoping for faster WiFi so I can go wireless.
the 4k+ is significantly faster/snappier on wired vs wireless (I have both the database and all content on another machine).
But I’m guessing that the wired also will get faster on the new device, making it even snappier.

The Vero 4K+ already has a gig ethernet port. I kind of doubt you’ll see a 10gig port on the Vero V. Almost nobody has 10gig ports on their home routers/switches (I mean, I do, but I am very much an outlier), and I don’t think 10gig would change the experience at all.

For me, most of the “lag” on the experience is the processor trying to render skin stuff. I use a slightly modified version of Estuary, and it’s definitely slower on the 4K+ than on my Mac laptop. I’m hoping the processor bump on the Vero V will help that some.

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Pretty much my only complaint with the Vero 4k+. It can’t handle a demanding skin with a large library.

Rapier is probably the best skin for a great balance of looks and performance

With the 4K+ it seems there’s been a non-zero number of issues with power supplies progressively failing, causing a random assortment of issues. It’d be good if the V came with a bit better quality power supply.

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