I use OSMC mainly for TV watching and recording, it’s been great for a couple of years now. However as a Pi owner, I guess this means no more HD channels / recordings.
How can the upgrade be prevented ? So far I’ve just been pressing “cancel” in the dialogue that pops up.
In My OSMC->updates (cloud symbol) set check for updates to ‘Never’
This is mainly how I use OSMC too.
I’ve been trying to keep up with this update and related issues all along and I must have missed this. I have two RPi threes (one plus) running OSMC and I was planning to update one and see what happens. But if the new version effectively nukes HD channels and recording, I just won’t update either of my devices.
Am I interpreting this correctly?
On RPi’s older than the RPi 4 interlaced Mpeg 2 will perform poorly due to loss of hardware decoding and you will likely be better off sticking with Kodi 18.
The PVR add-ons are preinstalled but disabled so they are all found in add-ons>my add-ons>PVR clients>
You should find VDR VNSI Client there and you would just need to click on it to open its information window and then click on the enable button.
Thanks for the quick response. I’ve been hanging around awhile and I figured this was the right way forward for me. However, I do have a followup, just to check my understanding.
I paid the license fee for the decoders on the 3B, but not the 3B+. Hence, the 3B has hardware acceleration and the 3B+ does not (is this right?). That said, the recorded programs when viewed on the 3B+ look just fine to me; I can’t detect a difference between viewing these programs on the 3B with acceleration and a 3B+ without acceleration.
Is it right to expect the same performance on a 3B+ without the decoders on the November (2020) and August 2021 OSMC releases? If so, then I’ll try to upgrade, since there appears to be interesting new functionality. If not, I’ll leave well enough alone and be content.
Thanks again.
After the upgrade to August 2021 both Pi’s will only do software decoding even if you have bought the license fee. So if the 3B+ works ok now for software decoding the Video’s they both should be able to decode the video’s after the update.
Update disabled most of my Add-ons so I figured time for a clean install. Unable to connect to WiFi despite multiple downloads and fresh installs. Finally solve with clean install of 18 and then update to 19.1. Works well
They seemed to me to be worse. I just recently set myself up with a PVR setup and I was okay with how my RPi 3 and 3B+ performed in Kodi 18.9 but my RPi 2 wasn’t good enough so I just bought the codecs for all three devices. I had intended to keep these on Kodi 18 but for unrelated reasons changed my mind and upgraded them to Kodi 19 at which time I was not happy with how any of them performed. All three got retired and replaced with RPi 4’s and that is working out just fine so far.
Hmm. I guess I need to try to upgrade one and see what happens for myself. I almost never use OSMC to view live TV, only recorded programs. I’m not sure if the programs I record are interlaced MP2, just that they seem to play OK. Could it be that acceleration is only needed for live TV viewing? (Sorry if I’m missing something basic.)
That said, it won’t hurt me too much if I have to break down and buy a Pi 4 to run the new version.
If your grabbing OTA in the US it is interlaced Mpeg 2. Whether your recorded content gets deinterlaced and recompressed depends on if your backend software supports that and you set it up to do so.
You can always go back to Kodi 18 if you try 19 and it doesn’t work as well as you like. You could even image your SD card with your PC to make going back super easy if you wanted.
Yep. It’s US OTA. I use NextPVR on the back end. I’ll check to see my options on interlace/deinterlace, but I’m pretty sure I haven’t set anything up to do as you note.
Indeed. I also have the “spare” Pi that I can upgrade with little risk. I will look into imaging the existing SD card to make fallback super easy.
I’ll upgrade and report back my findings in another thread. Thanks again for the support.
Done. Thank you.
Had a power outage today and after that, time was off. Not sure if it was OK either before, but:
osmc@osmc:~$ sudo systemctl restart ntp
osmc@osmc:~$ date
Mon Aug 9 01:51:15 EEST 2021
osmc@osmc:~$ ntpq -p
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==============================================================================
0.debian.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 0.000 0.001
1.debian.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 0.000 0.001
2.debian.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 0.000 0.001
3.debian.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 0.000 0.001
-cdns2.utanet.at 187.182.182.166 3 u 11 64 1 62.863 -2.833 2.276
-mmo2.ntp.netnod .PPS. 1 u 8 64 1 38.517 -3.380 0.263
*shtucer.tntu.ed 31.28.161.68 2 u 5 64 1 49.625 -8.548 5.233
+yikes.bl2.tolna 130.149.17.8 2 u 6 64 1 57.081 -6.675 4.539
-fetchmail.media 161.143.24.141 2 u 7 64 1 58.077 -3.936 2.034
+tor.nocabal.de 131.188.3.222 2 u 6 64 1 45.997 -11.581 4.705
-ec2-13-55-50-68 203.206.205.83 3 u 7 64 1 314.457 -2.802 4.366
osmc@osmc:~$ date
Wed Aug 11 20:08:51 EEST 2021
Please don’t clog the release news thread with support requests.
I joined the testing branch for this release. Can I upgrade (with apt-get) just like everyone else?
My uname -a says:
Linux osmc-lm-wg 4.9.113-29-osmc #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 31 06:21:12 UTC 2020 aarch64 GNU/Linux
Yes, just remove the devel entry from the sources.list and do an update/dist-upgrade
Worked like a charm! Thanks!
all good so far. Thanks!
My two Vero4k+ units upgraded without incident. Very good update delivery.
No issues so far and thank you!